PhilipTheBucket

Who the fuck is still drinking Coca-Cola? Literally the only person I know who ever drank it habitually was my dad, and he stopped some years ago.

Dude Lemmy is such a fuckin' weird place

Have you considered that both the CCP and USA are harmful and oppressive?

They absolutely are, yes. I'm pretty sure I was explicitly making that point, and arguing against any person who would try to claim that one of them was not.

You say "no war but class war" and then tried to start a one-person struggle session.

Literally all I did, after making that one singular point, was ask the other person 4 different times what they were trying to say. They refused to elaborate, instead preferring to struggle. Oh so much struggle. I eventually got tired of the struggle and departed. So there was someone involved who was in a one-person struggle session, but I'm pretty sure it was not me.

It's a wild indication of how far things have fallen apart that for so many decades, "the US isn't going to do any crazy fuckery and it's safe to host this vital transnational infrastructure there" was working fine.

Also, completely agree. IDK where the UN should be hosted going forward, but it sure as shit should not be the US.

I didn't intentionally strawman your argument. I read something into your argument that might or might not have been there. You are really aggressively refusing to clarify whether or not it was there (and also by the by, going back and editing your past statements to say something significantly different from what they said when I responded to them), and deflecting to all kinds of stuff instead no matter how many times I ask.

I think this conversation has run its course. You're still welcome to clarify "fear mongering," but it seems unlikely that you're going to. Best of luck to you in your future endeavors.

I'm on about clarifying what exactly you mean by "fear mongering." That is literally the crux of the discussion you decided to open, and a good opportunity to expand more on what you're trying to say.

Like I said before, you might be 100% right that it was a strawman. But the fact that you keep so forcefully refusing to clarify, makes me think that probably it was not. Feel free to prove me wrong if you would like to.

I've learned that just asking simple direct questions is pure kryptonite to a particular type of Lemmy poster, and I'm here for it lol.

Inb4 the IRS gets weaponized against anyone who has large amounts in their publicly available record of who donated to the Democrats.

IDK if the Trump people are even organized enough to do something like that, but it wouldn't take all that much skill to do it.

a lazy attempt to catch me as a tankie or something

All I did was ask your take on a geopolitical issue that's really not all that complicated. It's like asking someone "How do you feel about underage prostitution" and their answer is "Stop asking irrelevant questions! It's a waste of everyone's time!"

Honestly if you'd said "obviously genocide is horrible whoever is doing it, I was talking about Peter Navarro and friends" then that would have been the end of it. I probably would have apologized about my unfair mischaracterization, because there is a certain definition of "fear mongering" for which I think you're 100% right in what you're saying. However... that's not what you said.

You still have plenty of time to answer, of course.

your responses feel tailored to deflect conversation away from the subject of the article you are commenting on.

You're the one that changed the subject away from the article topic. I responded on-topic to what you said, you just didn't like what I had to say.

The plot thickens lol

I mean you did refer to "fear mongering" about it. I guess it sort of hinges on what you would classify as fear mongering... what you do think about Uyghur re-education? That might shed some light on whether or not you said that.

"American companies are enabling China's horrors"

"Aha! I knew China's horrors were all a pack of lies!"

Perfect sense.

As stated elsewhere, the conflict is between authoritarians and their victims. "No war but class war" type of thing. Anyone who pretends otherwise supports in some way some subset of the authoritarians.

The additional irony is that destroying public transit also hurts the car people.

The only solution to traffic is to remove cars from the road. The most effective way to remove cars from the road is to give people alternatives. Even if you only care about the car driving suburbanites, public transit and bicycle lanes are still the answer.

I think I said quite a while ago that the Lemmy troll brigades should really invest some effort into pro-Israel accounts, they could get a ton of mileage out of them. I have mixed feelings about the fact that they seem to have taken up the challenge. I used to never see this stuff.