Yeah, because everything was fine and everyone got soft and complacent.
Like it or not, we're coming to the end of that, we've not even scratched the surface of how bad it's actually going to get. The people and communities that smarten up will (sometimes) survive, and more and more, the ones that do not will not.
Elon Musk: We're gonna need the goon AI, get to work on that
Also Elon Musk: WTF it would never! Fake news
Sam Altman:
Pro tip for anyone in this situation: Squaring up on someone that close to them is assault (as distinct from battery which is if you make contact with them), and the woman not getting back when they told her to is obstruction. He's guilty of a felony and she can be arrested for a misdemeanor, if they really want to push either or both of those issues.
If you're going into it to maybe get arrested to make a point then fine. It's possible that the charges will be dropped or the grand jury won't indict, and giving resistance to these guys is absolutely a good thing to do. But, it's also possible that the legal consequences will be severe (even if they're following the normal rules instead of just snatching you to ICE detention). Honestly, they should be getting this type of stuff everywhere they show up. I'm just saying this so that people know what the deal is if they do decide to do this. There are a lot of TikTok lawyers who think that "not even doing anything" is in the statute, but it isn't.
Yeah. It's a big problem. I was alarmed seeing people that I knew to be bad-faith political trolls starting to make new political communities to "compete" in the discourse space with places like !politics@lemmy.world (which itself is pretty much a pile of ass for different reasons, but that's a separate conversation). And, since then, those innocent looking communities been steadily growing in power and influence.
They now have themselves a whole new instance, too: https://altmedia.house/. One fun exercise is to pick one of the names at random out of that "this community likes" list in the sidebar, and see what that person thinks about Russia or the Ukraine war. Except for people like Noam Chomsky who are out of circulation currently, in every single one of the people I tried that with just to investigate, I found some bullshit.
I hope that wherever Joe Dever is now, he sees this video now with all that effort he put into making something genuinely unique and wildly creative just to have it go into a little 75c trade paperback for kids during a car ride, finally being recognized. Like "YES IT WAS INNOVATIVE AND GREAT I FUCKING TOLD YOU WHERE IS MY BOOK AWARD"
The second frog turns to the first and says “you’re being alarmist, things aren’t that bad.”
This sounds like the second frog.‡
You gotta read what I wrote again then lol
You definitely have way more faith in our (metaphorical) neighbors and the system than I do.
Absolutely not. Actually one of the really alarming things to me is that I don't think this country has the structures and traditions in its society anymore that would enable it to build and maintain a working technological society (let alone a working democracy). I hope I am wrong, but I actually don't even think that the current fascism crisis is the worst thing that we're facing. I think it is a symptom of a much deeper disease which is a lot harder to get rid of than any one leader or political faction no matter how fascistic.
It would help if you included resources that prove that that book was the pretext for double digit successful revolutions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_Dictatorship_to_Democracy
It's known to have been directly involved in Burma, the Arab Spring, Serbia, and Angola. It's been translated by local activists into Amharic, Arabic, Azeri, Bahasa, Belarusian, Burmese, Chin, Chinese (simplified and traditional Mandarin), Dhivehi, Farsi, French, Georgian, German, Jing Paw, Karen, Khmer, Kurdish, Kyrgyz, Nepali, Pashto, Russian, Serbian, Spanish, Tibetan, Tigrinya, Ukrainian, Uzbek, and Vietnamese. I have no idea how many of those led to it later being involved in a revolutionary attempt (let alone a successful one) in a "proof" sense. I was just telling you what I think about it.
Here's a story: https://edition.cnn.com/2012/06/23/world/gene-sharp-revolutionary/index.html
The author is the real deal. He's spent time in federal detention in the US, he's spent a lot of time with people in resistance movements in these places.
I want to call your attention to this part specifically:
The Burmese were amazed by Sharp’s theories. They couldn’t believe they had been fighting and killing for 20 years when there was an alternative.
I don't know if you can really call modern Myanmar a "success story" but to me they seem like they're making more progress now than in 30 years of bloody armed confrontation with the military, which of course is more capable at military things.
You likely have no idea who you just killed and who’s coming to investigate it
I saw a bodycam video once where some cops were attempting to speak with a woman who had signs of mental illness who was alone in the house with a small child. One of her relatives was alarmed by this situation, called the cops, and a couple cops were now trying to retrieve the child from the house calmly, without success.
The sergeant showed up, said maybe it was a fake custody situation, said maybe someone was in the country illegally, yelled at the woman who had called the police, and had everyone leave.
Once the cops left, the woman he had yelled at tried to go in the house and resolve things herself, the mentally ill woman physically attacked her, and the cops came back and long story short it all got sorted out. The sergeant actually apologized to the woman for being an "asshole" in his words. Sure. But also, the situation could easily have ended with a dead kid or the woman who called the cops getting shot or something.
Bottom line: Yes. There are plenty of good cops out there, don't listen to Lemmy about it. But there are also plenty who are incompetent or it's just not a good day for them. Don't just give a goddamned statement.
Which he is
Fuck 'em up Mr. Zohran
fascism does not care about legality, and it doesn’t care about pretext
Very very true. However, most of the country does. If they were already "doing it themselves" and this stuff didn't matter, they would have arrested Pritzger, kicked Jimmy Kimmel off the air, that CBP commander in Chicago wouldn't be showing up to court every morning, things like that. There is a reason they're starting by focusing on vulnerable communities without much support from the rest of society, and obeying this elaborate pretense that they're "enforcing immigration law" and pretending to stay inside those boundaries so elaborately.
I can pretty much guarantee you that if the citizens of Chicago had been obeying your advice here so far, Pritzger would have been arrested by some sort of federal agents already.
All I can really say is read the book. I know you have your way of looking at it and I'm honestly not trying to disrespect it, because I get it, but also, how many successful revolutions have you written the guidebook for? I think for Sharp that number is close to double digits now.


Yeah, it is excellent. He put it in the public domain, it's on the internet:
https://www.files.ethz.ch/isn/126900/8008_FDTD.pdf
He wrote a bunch more that are a little more in depth (there are references in the appendix for some specific details about particular tactics), but that one is the pamphlet condensed version which is still pretty comprehensive.