Pelicanen

Someone somewhere just started rifling through their shadman archive.

> "no goalpost moving"

> immediately moves goalposts

Thank you for proving my point.

Now you're just moving the goalposts and playing with words. Your initial comment only said

NATO membership is off the table, virtually no NATO country wants Ukraine to join.

Which is absolute nonsense.

Ukraine is currently in a war and already pretty early on after the start of the full-scale invasion there were discussions that a country joining during wartime is not something that seemed plausible but that a membership when the conflict is over is something that almost all members stand behind.

You mentioned nothing about it being effective immediately in your initial comment and only claimed that virtually no NATO members want Ukraine to join.

France: "The Participants reaffirm that Ukraine’s security is integral to Euro-Atlantic and global security. France confirms that Ukraine’s future membership of NATO would make an effective contribution to peace and stability in Europe."

Germany: “'It was agreed at the last NATO summit that Ukraine should be given the prospect of joining NATO. A joint NATO effort is needed here, so I do not agree with those who say that we should immediately give up on Ukraine's membership in NATO before negotiations with russia,' Merz said."

Now you're just parroting talking points from the Kreml.

Almost all of the NATO countries want Ukraine to join except for Russia's lapdogs, ergo: Hungary, Slovakia, and the US.

The people who will suffer from this are Ukrainians and Palestinians, the rich Americans who have spent decades benefiting from the US' hegemony will continue being rich without feeling the repercussions of the current administration's actions. The only Americans who will noticeably suffer from this are the ones who have already been suffering for a long time: Minorities, women, the poor, etc.

What's the joke?

I once read a quote by someone that went roughly like "Voting with your wallet means the ones with the biggest wallets get the most votes" and it has stuck with me ever since.

The point is to cause obstruction and attention. Force them to show that they don't respect the rule of law so everyone can see it, people like the idea of "mavericks who don't bend a knee to bureaucracy" but when it's obvious that they can (and will) take your livelihood without leaving you with any legal recourse, a lot of people are less enthusiastic. And if the courts actually put a stop to their efforts every now and then, it undermines their position of authority and shows that the power they claim to wield isn't as far-reaching as they'd like to pretend.

They want people to give in without a fight, they want people to silently just accept their authority. Don't give it to them for free.

I was hoping it was gonna be that video! One of the few times I will agree that size matters.

According to Einstein, you can sit on a hot stove.