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My Trump voting uncle had nothing to say when he was talking about how all the jobs were going to come back to the USA and I asked him if he wants him or any of his kids picking peaches in California for $7.50 an hour. Who exactly does he think will do these jobs when all the immigrants who are trying to establish themselves here are gone? He did not surrender the point being a good MAGAt but you can tell he had not thought about it in the slightest.

He uses all the Nazi secret code shit. Like his fascination with the letter X for example which is modern Nazi code for Heil Hitler. Saying that Hitler did not kill millions of people. He throws it right out there and expects the world to ignore it.

That is exactly what these numb nut dipshits expected.

Yeah argue with one long enough and they basically just admit they don't care what happens what they love is "owning the libs" the more facts you show them that they can not respond to the more they think they are pissing you off and the more they get their rocks off. 100% they could not care less about any of the things they claim to revere, like the Constitution. Literally the only thing that makes them change their mind is when they realize the policies they voted for apply to them too.

One of my friends adult daughter is fully disabled mentally and physically and my friend can not even work the state pays her to be a caregiver for her child. They100% lives on state support programs. She voted for Trump, I told her before hand she is shooting everyone in the foot and shooting herself in the face with that vote,. She said she disagreed and things will get better for her that she is tired of liberals and "their immigrants" (???) taking part of the tax money that should be going to her and others like her. I was completely dumbfounded. I told her that is completely fabricated BS from Trump and it does not work that way but she told me I did not know what I was talking about, Trump wouldn't just lie about this stuff... yeah. She said THAT.

Now she is telling me how she is so scared they are going to cut her benefits after all the targeting of Social Security and that she felt so betrayed and she thought there was no way Trump would betray his voters like this and there was no way she could have known Trump would have done something this terrible.... I had to look at her and ask how she could have NOT known when I fucking told her multiple times. She finally realized after I said that that I was right. So she knows and will admit she was wrong now. None of my other friends have been affected yet but having talked to them none of them will change their minds until it hurts them or their family directly. Most of them are good enough friends they even admit that they don't care (or even pay attention to) what Trump does as long as it is pissing off the liberals they are happy. At least the first friend realized she was dumb about politics. She told me from now on she was just going to ask me who to vote for.... she is getting smarter about it at least.

Apparently all you have to do to get banned from Reddit these days is to hope Musk's penis implant explodes and burns him to death from the dick up. Worked for me!

This right here. Dumbasses thought they were not on the list but it turns out they had just not gotten that far down the list yet.

Both sides are terrible and terribly similar in all sorts of bad ways. I have hated every President in my lifetime ( back to Reagan) ALL of them have been terrible so most years I would sound like you but Trump is different. He is all the worst qualities of the worst both sides have to offer and then turn it up to 11. I hate Democrats as much as Republicans normally but this piece of warm wet dogshit is on a whole other level. I would vote for any of our past trash Presidents and be happy about it if it meant no more Trump... ever.

Yup, I agree with all of this. We have a lot of work to do in several areas to fix this shit, that much is for sure. The third party thing would really only work in the local elections though. Presidential elections are set up to be damn near impossible for a third party to compete as anything other than a potential spoiler.

Biggest and easiest method would be to co opt the primary process. So many fewer people vote on who the actual party candidate will be that it is far easier to influence the final election. If enough registered Dems actually participated in the primaries we could get someone like Bernie in. To really mess with the Repubs people could co opt their party instead, though asking Dems to register as Republicans would be a lot more difficult. Keep screwing Musk as well. Can burn up the ones at dealerships still, they are insured too so the idea of insurance companies not wanting to insure Tesla would still be viable, though definitely slower and more difficult but this way we are at least not pushing undecided folks over to the wrong side. Protesting is always useful those should definitely keep going. In fact most of what the left is doing is helpful, this one specific action I think is counterproductive though. Definitely the biggest change that can be made is participation in the primaries. At the very least we could get an actual left leaning Democrat instead of a weak willed centrist. At best it would be possible to co opt both (though that part would be highly unlikely).

Yup. Funny all the people blaming the bible like the dude up there calling it a stupid book... obviously hasn't read it. The bible has great lessons, 90% of Christians just ignore them is all. Don't blame the book for the idiots who claim to follow it when they actually aren't. Even the stuff wanna be Christians quote thinking it supports their argument they are either misunderstanding or leaving out vital context. Real Christians are very rare and almost never associated with an organized church. They just quietly try to do their best they don't try to use their belief to justify the rest of their life and bad decisions.

You sound like a Nazi. That is literally 100% out of their playbook. Musk would be proud of you.

This is present on both sides. So many on the left apparently think that burning Tesla's owned by random people who bought them way before Elon revealed himself to be a Nazi cunt is going to do something other than drive undecided people to the MAGAts that it blows my mind. Looks like a lot of the left agrees with Elon about empathy being weakness because they have none here. Not understanding how regular/ undecided people feel about having their car burnt up and thinking they are going to do anything but get pissed and join the other side is about as unempathetic as it gets. Musk would be proud of them. I just hope it is a vocal minority doing it and agreeing with it and that they are caught and arrested before they can damage the anti MAGA cause too much.