MapleEngineer

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)
[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Think about it, really, imagine this was coming from someone you respect enough to make you consider changing your mind; should protests that cause no bodily harm be a criminal offence? Should the people not have a way to truly disrupt the system if our existence is at stake? Is the convenience of the ignorant more important than our survival? I’d love to hear your honest answers to these questions.

In theory what you are saying is correct. Disruptive protest for popular causes are very effective. The problem is that these fanatics are driving a wedge between the solution they want and the people they really need on their side for their protests to be effective (the people in popular.) I'm prepared to bet that they didn't convince a single person trying to get around the loop at YUL to join them. How many people jumped out of their cars and asked for glue? Do you think they changed any oil executive's minds? Do you think that they convinced any bought and paid for by the oil industry politicians to change their vote? Do you think that the number of people they convinced to vote for change during the next election outweighs the number of people whos votes they galvanized against them? In order for us to achieve real change in climate policy they need to convince many millions of people to vote for change. I'm willing to bet you $1 that they have done more harm than good.

Please understand that I agree with their goals. I agree that we need to make dramatic changes and as I've said in other parts of this "discussion" (discussion in quotes because there is a lot of whinging, shaming, insulting, name calling, etc. being thrown at me that does not constutite a conversation.) I have made substantial changes myself and have helped hundreds of others make substantial changes. I have had a direct and personal impact on carbon reduction. I just don't agree with their methods. I think that they are doing far more harm to the cause than they are doing good.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

The UK is deporting innocent people to fucking Rwanda, lmao.

They were. The new government killed that plan on day 1.

“I acknowledge that at least some of your concerns are shared by many but since we don’t want to do anything about it because that would mean changing our western week-end-at-the-resort lifestyle, we’ll just put you in prison. Fuck you.”

“But the plain fact is that each of you has some time ago crossed the line from concerned campaigner to fanatic. You have appointed yourselves as the sole arbiters of what should be done about climate change, bound neither by the principles of democracy nor the rule of law.

“And your fanaticism makes you entirely heedless of the rights of your fellow citizens. You have taken it upon yourselves to decide that your fellow citizens must suffer disruption and harm, and how much disruption and harm they must suffer, simply so that you may parade your views.”

I suspect that it's very clear to most people at this point that the actions of these fanatics and the whinging, feeble attempts at shaming, insults, name calling, and harassment by fanatics and their apologists online aren't actually intended to change anyone's minds. It's a fanatical circle jerk, as the judge suggested in the quoted ruling.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Just as long as they are prepared to answer to the rest of a society who, don't agree with their methods. The three who the judge in the UK was writing about are spending 2, 2, and 3 years in prison for their protest which showed utter contempt for other citizens.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

You're upset because I pointed out that the comment about the word "sole" was wrong. Dude, you need to get over yourself.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I didn't ask a question, I posted a snippet from a ruling from a similar case in the UK. I was set upon by apologists for the fanatics who showed utter contempt for the thousands of people trying to get to the airport by gluing themselves to the loop at YUL, refused to back down, and here we are. These people think that they can bully everyone into doing what they want them to do. They are wrong.

Here is my original comment for reference.

I didn't even say anything. I just posted the snippet.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (7 children)

That's an interesting point but I disagree. They treated thousands other people with utter contempt. That is not the act of someone who is morally superior. It's absolutely disqualifying.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

“But the plain fact is that each of you has some time ago crossed the line from concerned campaigner to fanatic. You have appointed yourselves as the sole arbiters of what should be done about climate change, bound neither by the principles of democracy nor the rule of law.

YOU have appointed yourselves as the SOLE arbiters of...

YOU is collection. The collective have appointed themselves the sole arbiters of...

Do you understand now?

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

you

/yo͞o,yə/

pronoun

used to refer to the person or people that the speaker is addressing.

"are you listening?"

He was referring to them collectively. In English, "you" can refer to one person or a group of people.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (8 children)

What did you think he got wrong?

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)
[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca -3 points 2 years ago

It's a self satisfying parade of their absolute moral superiority. It's a public circle jerk.

 

I just posted a few pictures of the chicken disassembly process. In deference to the vegans and those of delicate constitution I followed the community rules (which I wrote) and marked the post NSFW.

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca to c/homestead@lemmy.ca
 

We are a small, homestead farm. We aim for zero waste processing and have achieved it with our chicken processing. Here's how we do it.

We started with 42 Cornish x White Rock cockerels. They finished between 3 and 7 pounds (mostly toward the high end.)

Today we processed them down to dressed carcasses (what you would buy as a whole chicken in the grocery store.)

The first thing I do is remove the feet. They go into the feet bag. Some of them will go to Asian customers who want to eat them, some will go to pet owners for pet food.

Next I remove the skin from the top half of the neck then loosen and remove the glands and crop. These go in the gut bucket.

The necks go into the broth bag.

Next I open the cavity, carefully cut around the vent, and remove the organs.

The cavity fat goes in the schmaltz bag to be rendered into schmaltz.

The hearts go to one of our customers who will eat them.

The gizzards go to one of our customers who will eat them.

The livers go to one of our customers who will make pate from them.

The other organs and the contents of the gizzards go in the gut bucket.

That leaves us with clean carcasses.

I have two 5 gallon buckets (the gut bucket and a bucket of blood and heads). The feathers fill the tops of both buckets. These get buried in the muck pile to be composted. Within a few weeks they will be reduced to worm castings.

Tomorrow, I will part most of the chickens. I will make wing parts, boneless skinless breasts, boneless skinless thighs, and legs.

The wing tips, bones, skin and fat, and carcasses go into a roasting pan and my wife roasts them. When they are nice and brown she fills the roasting pans with water, onions, peppercorns, and vegetables and puts them in the oven overnight. In the morning she picks all the meat from the carcasses, This picked meat will become chicken salad, chicken quesadillas, or other dishes that require pulled chicken. Anything we don't use right away gets frozen to be used later.

What little is left of the carcasses goes into the muck piled to be composted.

Nothing goes to waste.

 

It took us 6 hours to harvest and process 42 chickens. They are in the fridge with bags of ice between them to make sure they cool down. Tomorrow I will part most of them. We are keeping these ones for ourselves for the winter. We would normally sell half of the fall batch but the summer was crazy and our plans changed so we're keeping these ones.

This is one of those things that I never imagined that I would be good at as a kid growing up in the city.

 

We are harvesting 44 white rocks today. I mount three cones on my tractor bucket. I have cut them down to widen the mouths. I put the tractor between the chicken house and processing area.

On the left, a homemade scalder. It's an electric water tank cut in half with the thermostat replaced with a commercial thermostat (the temperature can be set higher than a residential one) and a replacement element (110V versus 220V.)

In the center is our homemade plucker. It has a spray bar around the top and a solenoid valve that turns the water on when the plucker is turned on.

We process the birds through to ready for the freezer 9 at a time.

I can post detail pictures of the plucker or a video of anyone is interested.

 

A few weeks ago we got 40 (45) broilers. They're almost done.

We had to change our delivery date because I was going to be in Atlanta and my wife was going to be in Toronto. We had to switch hatcheries to get an earlier delivery date but the abattoir couldn't accommodate the change so I'm going to end up processing them myself on the homestead. These ones are for our own freezer. We're not allowed to sell them if they aren't processed at the abattoir where they can be government inspected.

I've got a note out to a local woman who wanted to come to learn how to do it herself. My wife's friend's son also wants to come learn.

It's a valuable skill to have if you're going to raise chickens for meat. It's especially important if the poop hits the fan and you can't get them processed at the abattoir because there's a zombie apocalypse or something.

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca to c/backyardchickens@lemmy.ca
 
 

A comment on another post reminded me...

Eggs. I really like eggs.

This is a picture of a bowl of hard boiled quail eggs with pinch bowls of salt, pepper, and paprika. I set them out at a party. They were a big hit.

We had a breeding trio of turkeys a few years ago so we had turkey eggs. I made turkey egg salad. It was delicious.

We always have ducks and I've eaten duck egg salad as well.

I can't find the picture of the big bowl of goose egg salad. If I do I'll post it.

 

My Purolator driver likes to deliver these McMaster-Carr boxes because he gets to look at the latest changes to my machine room (and to visit the caramel fridge in my office.)

This box includes a bunch of replacement O-rings for the John Guest fittings in my RO system. If you've ever tried to buy replacement O-rings you will have been frustrated by the fact that it's very difficult to figure out what kind of O-rings they are and that they are available in very small packages for a ridiculously high price.

They are EDPM Dash 110 O-rings (McMaster-Carr catalog number 9561K41 .) $1.71 for 25 pcs.

 

These are Bronze Orlopps and Mini Whites. They are 242 days old as of today. They have lived a good life with all day access to outdoors, good, high quality, local drug-free feed, and clean water. They are friendly and very calm. I like turkeys far more than I like chickens.

These guys go to the spa next Friday, September 22.

 

We ordered broilers from a different hatchery this year. I don't think we got what we expected to get.

 

Despite what Canada's nation hating extreme right would have you believe.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/4413694

These Cornish X meat birds arrived on our farm on August 3. That makes them 30 days old today. We ordered 40 and got 45 (the hatcheries always give you extra in case there are any losses during or immediately after transport.) We have lost only one so there are 44 out there now.

My wife has Chicken Day on the calendar as September 30. They will be 59 days old at that point and should average between 6 and 7 pounds dressed.

We had a confluence of events that resulted in our cancelling our original order for 60 birds with one hatchery and ordering 40 birds from another hatchery for delivery a week earlier. That means that we lost our slot at the abattoir. We normally have half of the birds done at an abattoir and do half ourselves. We can't sell the birds we do ourselves so we eat those ones. With the situation this summer we decided not to grow any birds for anyone else this fall and will do all 40 of the birds here on the farm for ourselves.

Butchering day is NOT my favorite day of the year but it is part of farming livestock and it has to be done. We're likely going to offer a workshop for anyone local who wants to learn how to process chickens on their own property.

I gave their bedding a toss this morning.

Our meaties always have access to outdoors from the time they're about 3 weeks old. They will continue to go outside right up until the day before they are processed.

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