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Yes, sorry. I suppose I could have been more precise from the get-go. That's what I get for using social media at work. I understand the desire to see the data broken down further, but at the same time, it does make sense to me to keep pet cats and feral cats lumped together in the context of analyzing bird deaths associated with humans. I think we're in complete agreement with that sorted out.

I'm not the one twisting language here.

Let's try not to take things personally here. I'm not twisting words, and I'm not claiming that you are either. I'm pretty confident the equivocation is an honest mistake.

We don't disagree on the definition of a domesticated species here. We don't disagree about whether cats are domesticated or not. The original comment by gmtom said, "graph would be better if feral cats were separated from pet cats. As the vast majority of predation comes from those feral cats." Note that the categories we are discussing here are feral cats and pet cats, not feral cats and domestic cats.

You respond by saying, "The reason they are the same group is that feral cats result from domestic cats, if there were not domestic cats, we would not have feral cats. They are not wild, native cats." The categories here have changed to feral cats and domestic cats when the original comment was about feral cats and pet cats.

You can conclude from this line of reasoning that separating the graph into the categories of feral cats and domesticated cats is inappropriate, but you cannot use this line of reasoning to conclude that it is inappropriate to separate the graph into the categories of feral cats and pet cats.

Using this argument to suggest that it is inappropriate to separate the graph into the categories of feral cats and pet cats is to equivocate two distinct usages of the term domestic. One usage means "a member of a domesticated species" and the other usage means "pet" or something like "non-feral domesticated." These are clearly distinct usages. In one case, the categories overlap, while they are mutually exclusive in the other.

Feel free to hit me with sources on this. If they aren't feral they are wild.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_cat

I've got another resource on domestication to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestication_of_the_cat

We don't disagree on the facts here, so no number of sources could resolve this discussion one way or another.

That's not true. Cats domesticated themselves.

domesticated wild cats into pets

That's not what domestication means.

If your point is that all feral cats are members of a domesticated species, then you are correct only by definition. If your point is that all feral cats come from pet cats, then you are factually incorrect.

I think you are equivocating two distinct uses of the term domestic. A domestic cat is a cat that is also a pet, and a domestic species is a species that is suited to life with humans. All feral cats are domestic by the second definition but not the first. If you take the second definition, then you are correct but only trivially. If you take the first definition, then you are historically incorrect. Either way, I don't think you have a very strong point.

That's fair, but I was thinking in the context of meme communities like this one in which nearly all of the posts are images.

Interestingly, I didn't have to circumvent any security measures to uncover the vulnerability. They had a page that was leaking api keys - all you had to do was watch the network requests. That's why I chalk it up to luck and not my prowess in cyber security.

There is no meme police and nobody uses the term image macro.

I would argue that memes aren't necessarily meant to be funny. I think the most important component of a meme is its composition, which is usually a square image with optional text. But yeah, I completely agree with your broader points.

I agree with you, but you also can't just assume that everything is fixed or that the security is as good as the competition these days just because the software received a lot of updates.

It's been a meme for years. Maybe you just hadn't run into it before.

I like: Cylinder, Snowflake, Vault, or Piggy bank

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