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[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)
[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's a shame that there are 0 parties in the country who, when they've come to power in any jurisdiction, have implemented it.

Even the ones who claim to have it as party policy.

[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Only parties that would benefit from it are going to take it seriously.

Why would the Liberals and Conservatives ever implement it. It would only hurt them.

You will never get election reform by voting those two parties.

To be clear, this isnt a blanket statement on who you should vote for. Just that voting for the two main parties will not net election reform to any meaningful degree.

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

It's still better to vote for parties that promise proportional representation (Greens🟢/NDP🟧/Bloc⚜️) than none at all (LPC/CPC).

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Yes.

Cheers!

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Minority governments are always better for democracy

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

As long as there is someone in opposition who is willing to work with the government to come up with acceptable middle-ground solutions, and not simply get in the way of the governing party as much as possible.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We need to drop the American idea of "the opposition". It's incredibly fucked up to think that about half the government is there simply to stop the other half.

3 "major" parties is the bare minimum to keep is out of what's happening down there. The Left and Right. The Good and the Bad. Us versus the Enemy.

We need 7 or 8 major parties with at least 5% of the seats whose goals are to earn enough seats to influence Canadian policy on behalf of Canadians, not 2 major parties whose goal is to control the government. That goal always leaves Canada second (or third, when corporate interest buys it's way in).

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

When I refer to "the opposition" I intend that to mean all the parties that aren't the current governing party. Including (but not limited to) His Majesty's Loyal Opposition.

In the most recent parliament, the NDP was an opposition party, but one that was willing to work somewhat cooperately with the governing party to accomplish several positive outcomes for citizens.

While at the same time, the "official opposition" party was being as stubbornly obstructionist as possible.

That is what I was referring to.

[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is all well and good, but the NDP is projected to win like 6 seats in this election.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which is why political agitation reminding people that it doesn't have to be that way is a useful thing to be doing doing an electoral campaign.

[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I just think this would be more relevant if the NDP were doing 2015 numbers. In this election there isn't that much excitement around them and there’s probably not a whole ton of people torn between the NDP and voting strategically.

Disclaimer: am NDP voter

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

2011 was a special case with how godawful the Liberals were and how uniquely charismatic Jack Layton was. 2015 they were still polling over 20%, which could hold the balance of power and make this worth talking about.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Mostly it was a special case of Quebec thinking they would go along with the ROC, and waking up the next morning to realize it was all a fever dream and that the ROC, as usual, wasn't on the same page.

[–] droopy4096@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago

If NDP starts acknowledging the fact that their power lies with minority government, they could pivot campaign messaging but they won't and people are scared of what next is going to come out of US so they would vote incumbent party like any time any country faces external pressure etc.