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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And somehow it won't effect the war at all

Russia has been on the brink of collapse for 20 years now.

Ping me when something actually happens that isn't just propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 3 days ago

It's ok, they'll just buy them from the US. That's what allies do.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 3 days ago (51 children)

Elsewhere on Lemmy today;

Germany warns Russia may be preparing attack on NATO

Both of these cannot be true.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago

They can be true. They might be low on current stockpile, but what is building up is production capacity. Preparing to attack doesn't mean immediately attacking, what most have concern is that once Russia's war against Ukraine cools down, Russia will spend the next 4-10 years building up towards potentially attacking NATO nations.

Yes, years down the line doesn't sound as alarming to the layman, but it is critical for that eventuality to be recognized and prepared for, nations and industry move slowly, and they need to prepare to fight another long drawn out war.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The idea is that after some kind of cease fire, russia will churn out stuff for 3-4-5 years (so mebbe 1.000 tanks?) and then not go full frontal against NATO but say take a bite out of Lithuania, just to see what the response will be.

Like they have been doing since forever (Chechnya, Moldavia, Georgia, Ukraine and so on).

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Correct. The issue with Ukraine though is they fought back and didn't give any land to Russia. Now Putin needs to save face and how many people put through the meat grinder to do that is irrelevant.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Both things can be true because Germany is talking about risks in the upcoming 5 to 10 years, while this issue is relevant today.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We have to keep in mind that Europe needs to justify austerity for the citizens and rearmament for their militaries. I have no evidence of this, but I think it's an entierly sensible read that the warning from Germany is an overstatement with that intent in mind.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I guess you need to pretend there's a threat NOW in order to divert funds towards defense now.

If the threat is in more like 10 years, why don't we start investing next year instead? etc.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago

There are ways Russia can attack that doesn’t include massive tank charges

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They absolutely can.

Russia has thousands of men willing to fight in horrendous conditions.

A few thousand soldiers that are very well equipped might lose to 10x as many badly equipped enemies.

I think they would lose, but they might not think so.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I still can’t believe how fucking shameless their regime is with those “prizes”. Like… holy fuck.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's about search engine squatting, if you now search "Russia meatgrinder" you get that, instead of articles about losing the war.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Lmfao this is hilariously logical and I bet it’s actually the reason

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I mean it is so ridiculous on so many levels but also the gifts themselves are so absurd. If some of their high up elites just skipped a single dinner, they could probably buy something that is worth 10x more. The ruling class became so addicted to their money that they can't even sacrifice a minute fraction of it for proper propaganda lol.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Everything written about this conflict (by anyone) is propaganda. The enemy is a powerful and maximally oppressive force we all need to fear, but is also so weak it's losing equipment fast and its final defeat is only a matter of time.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I was told that russia was bankrupt and the war would be over in 3 months. And then when that wagner guy revolted, it was the final nail in the coffin

Yet here we are and the war is still on.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

It's not our fault you have been badly informed.

Everyone knows the russian economy is on the ropes for example, but when will it crack? No one knows.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

Yea I remember the videos of all the civilian cars being delivered via trains because "russia was out of military vehicles" like 5 months after it started

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

If you know anything about current Russian government, you'd know that one necessarily follows the other. The more desperate Russia gets, the less reserves they have, the more bold and aggressive they're getting. There is a combination of factors leading into it, both psychological and material.

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[–] [email protected] 205 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I really hope Russia is collapsing soon so Ukraians can have actual peace.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 3 days ago

And the world. Fuckers have infected everything

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 days ago

Agreed. I want the killing to stop and Russia to stop it's conquest.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Don’t worry, the US will probably bail Russia out to keep that from happening

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Tanks have not been very useful relative to their expense in the age of drones.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And yet, moving the front is almost impossible without them. All vehicles struggle with drones but at least tanks won't go down from machine gun fire, and without vehicles were pretty much back to WW1 tactics, fighting over inches.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

and without vehicles were pretty much back to WW1 tactics, fighting over inches.

Which is kind of what the war in Ukraine has become.

Maybe one day we'll learn as a species that there is no good way to fight a war and we should just avoid it altogether.

Most of us are just fighting over what the ruling class wants us to fight over, anyways.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Kinda what happened to battleships in the era of aircraft carriers and submarines?

[–] [email protected] 105 points 3 days ago (7 children)

It's seriously astonishing that they managed to wear though the entire massive Soviet stockpile.

Covert Cobal has great tank and apv counting vids, documenting the ever worsening condition of the vehicles remaining. https://youtube.com/@covertcabal

[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes. Back when analysts used to talk about a war with Russia pre-2022, something you heard pretty often was "they're not as advanced, but they have so much stockpiled armour".

This is like America running out of guns or Canada running out of syrup.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I think not even the CIA predicted the effectiveness of drones and javelins against old armor. Without modern defenses, they are just sitting (or slowly moving) ducks. Add to this the corruption in the military, causing lack of maintenance and missing parts, plus the gaps in skills and training of their soldiers.

We are maybe 1-2 years away from the Russian military collapsing, if it weren’t for the orange clown.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (12 children)

I don't know what to think anymore. I feel like every week for the last 4 years it's been "China's economy is going collapse any day now" and "Russia is losing so many people and resources in this war. They might as well give all of Russia to Ukraine"

I don't take any news written in English with any seriousness for these two countries.

Also, pretty sure modern warfare has learned heavily that tanks are completely obsolete against drones. Or even less modern warfare tells us how useless they are in cities against gorilla fighters.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Unless the Ukrainians have resorted to conscripting great apes, it's "guerilla" rather than "gorilla".

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Russia has been coasting on old Soviet stock for a while. Most of their modern t-90s and t-14s have been exploded. They've been sending mothballs tanks and apcs to the front for years now. Last year a good deal of frontline troops were using unarmored Chinese golf carts to move around. They never had the manufacturing capability to keep modernized armor at the front, and it is costing russian lives

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Unfortunately I think this also has to do with the changing tech around war. Drones are the new hotness and it is a very good counter to tanks warfare.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (11 children)

Drones don't hold ground, soldiers do. Soldiers that have tanks are going to be more effective than those without them.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 3 days ago (3 children)

So let's have a ceasefire eh? /s

Finally the reality is catching up with russia.

Slava Ukraine!

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 days ago (9 children)

According to the researchers, even though there are still about 4,700 tanks in storage, most of them will be difficult to restore due to their poor technical condition.

This is Russia though - "poor technical condition" is "ready for service."

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Covert Cobal has been classifying in mainly 4 categories. Abysmal is the lowest one, and are often missing such minor accessories as the turet, tracks, engines, and wheels. Not to mention having sat outdoors for upwards of 50 years. Those conditions are mostly what they're down to. It might allow for slightly higher throughout on production to start on these rusted husks rather than from raw steel, but it'd definitely be harder and more expensive to make these usable than to build a new tank from scratch.

https://youtube.com/@covertcabal

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