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I serviced the motor about a year ago and didn’t notice anything alarming inside. One of the bearings was a bit dirty and rusty, but I managed to clean and lubricate it, and the noise doesn’t quite sound like a bad bearing.

I can only hear it on alternating pedal pushes. If I just jump on one pedal, there's no sound, but if I shift my weight from one side to the other, it appears. I'm starting to suspect it might be coming from the motor mounts - maybe there's some flex and it's rubbing against the frame - but I'm not sure, and I don’t really know what to do about it either. Sometimes the noise disappears entirely, while other times it gets exceptionally loud.

All I know for certain is that it's not the pedals or the cranks. I cleaned the mounting surfaces and bolts with acetone, but that didn’t help. Then I tried the opposite and greased them, but that didn’t make a difference either. At this point, I really don’t know what to try next. I’d rather fix it myself than take it to a bike shop.

The bike is GZR Black Raw and the motor is Bafang M400

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Creaks can be tricky on any bike but I'd work my way from cheap to expensive which it sounds like you're already doing.

  1. Pedal bearings (sounds dumb but there's nothing worse than spending hours on stripping a bike and finding that it's just a bum pedal!).
  2. Crank arms - check the torque and, for peace of mind remove, grease, and refit (ensuring correct torque).

Since you've done these then it's tike for a bit more in depth work. The next two I usually do simultaneously:

  1. Motor housing - see above, grit and grime can get in and cause noise. Remove, clean, refit, and potentially a touch of grease on contact points.
  2. Motor mounts - this is 99% of the time the culprit of the creaking occurs on both sides of the bike and can be replicated with the bike static. As with everything else: remove, clean, grease and and all contact points and replace, with correct torque. I've done lots of Bosch equipped bikes with similar symptoms as yours which this resolves.

If this doesn't sort it then it's likely internal: bearings, etc. some of these are sometimes user serviceable and they're the typical culrprits, but worst case it's bike shop time...

Edit! Just a quick post-script to this now I've had a few coffees - often I've had experiences where motor bolts are just a little under torque, so it's always worth a quick nip up to spec before you start taking stuff out!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The last time I had a creak while pedalling, and I was sure it was coming from the drivetrain, it turned out to be the saddle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah, this is always a good one! It's why I always recommend working cheap to expensive (usually quite an efficient way to spend working time too).

I used to alarm customers by flexing their frames to show them the creak couldn't have been their BB and was in fact a contact point (usually saddles or sweated-on stems).

Bikes are surprisingly bendy if you're not expecting them to be!

The worst "surprise creak" I ever had was in my first year as a jobbing tech - turned out to be a dry QR skewer! Thankfully I had an ex-pro race tech to help me out.