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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (10 children)

The fact that people care about whether their messages are blue or green is so absolutely ridiculous.

I've known people who literally refuse to message anyone who doesn't use iMessage (and by extension has an iPhone).

Every one of them turned out to be a twat in every other facet of their personality as well.

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes had a business owner come in and demand all employee phones be iPhone or get out. Jobs was his personal hero and thought Apple could do no wrong. The issue was the company he bought was run on software made for Windows. A lot of extra effort went into making it work on macbooks he insisted we all use.

In the end he believed he was as great as Jobs. Not sure that's a great role model across the board for those that know more than just the apple procducts. The family values and toxic *work practices were not for everyone.

I was glad to get out of that company and back to my android phone and now Linux computing.

I will say the 3 good things about my iPhone was the camera, the full resolution media sharing with other iPhone users via iMessage, and the gallery uploading to other iOS devices.

The latter two are still a weakness with Google. At least they are addressing it with RCS but its still going to take time. Google photos has cloud back up but I've not really looked into how seamless the media backup to all android devices has been.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It’s because it breaks all the nice extra functionality of iMessage. iMessage is closer to Discord chats; You can do things like react to messages, send live emojis, spoiler/emphasize text, edit/delete sent messages, see when someone is typing, see read receipts, automatically send check-ins when you arrive at a destination, draw doodles, send full quality media, share galleries natively, etc… But as soon as someone with an android joins the group chat, all of that goes out the window and you’re stuck with boring old SMS.

Is it intentionally hostile on Apple’s part to bar androids from joining? Yes. But the reactions from Apple users aren’t entirely unjustified, because they’re left with a noticeably reduced feature set as soon as someone forces them to use green bubbles.

[–] speeding_slug@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So why not use something like WhatsApp or Signal instead then? Sounds like a terrible user experience to me. Nobody I know uses iMessage, everybody uses WhatsApp instead, which is platform agnostic.

But I'm European, so the iPhone penetration is lower iirc and they can't stay in their bubble as much.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because Whatsapp users are just as big "twats" as you call it. Try functioning without Whatsapp in Europe, you can't, and no amount of excuses will get you out of it.

Any messaging network starts acting like peer pressure once enough people around you are using it

[–] JGrffn@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'm personally dying to see the DMA do its magic. If there's even a dreamy chance of not having to have the big messaging apps installed on my phone in order to talk to people on these platforms, then I don't want to stop dreaming.

[–] excitingburp@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Apparently it breaks group chats, notwithstanding that it's an Apple problem, Signal exists and doesn't feature any of this nonsense.

[–] Swuden@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is literally perpetuated by schoolyard bullying. Anyone over the age of 20 will very likely be entirely out of touch with how big a deal green/blue is for pre-teens and teens these days. It’s pretty much a cornerstone in teen social structures.

[–] Pseudonaut@lemmy.today 1 points 2 years ago

Beeper is more than that. Beeper MINI is about that. But I've been using Beeper on my PC for the past year because I am so tired of picking up my phone a million times a day just to send someone a message. I'd say probably 90% of the people I know use iPhone/iMessage so having the ability to message them on desktop was a lifesaver for me. Really bummed it's not working anymore.

[–] jaschen@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 2 years ago

It's not blue vs green but encrypted or not.

[–] kowcop@aussie.zone -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don’t know what may have changed as I am an iPhone user, but about 10 years ago I worked in a small security role for a fairly large company, and the communications company we were using was more than happy to hand over sms logs as plain text. I would personally never send messages to anyone I was sure wasn’t encrypted and I can tell that by the blue bubble. I just don’t know when it is green.

I don’t know what has changed as I don’t keep up with it, but I am still dubious about messaging outside the Apple ecosystem, which is ok for me as I live in a country where most people use iOS

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

RCS on Android defaults to E2E encryption now since some year back, and Signal has been around for a long time now

[–] Snekeyes@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Uh. It's not that. Along w that is videos w potato quality, messages that never make it. Of course anyone reading your comment knows you missed the point.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah.

Because Apple has a proprietary messaging format. They won't adopt the standard the rest of the world uses or open theirs up for others to use.

[–] lefixxx@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Its not absolutely ridiculous and you sound like an idiot who thinks that everyone lives in the same little bubble as you.

[–] rdri@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

You sure it's about that? What I heard is that being outside of "trusted" zone means less features such as media and encryption. Also the person in this article says apple users are basically forced to use sms to send messages to Android users. I too would not want to resort to plain paid messages if my partner doesn't have the right app.

[–] Yoz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I really don't understand who the fuck cares about this shit. OMG! Can't believe the world we're living in now

[–] Yoz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Which losers are downvoting ? Show yourself, allow me to make an example outta you.

[–] Xylight@lemdro.id 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] filister@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Apples was and is still extremely anti-competitive and anti-consumers oriented.

[–] blicky_blank@lemmy.today 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I remember in the ipod days plugging a CD into the aul PC and ripping all the files as aac... A format that would only play in iTunes

[–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I had an arcos jukebox before the first iPod came out, every time they'd release a new version it's big feature would be something my jukebox had always done. Except it didn't have an awkward spinning selector wheel or celebrity endorsements.

I could connect it to the cd player and record the whole thing as mp3s, I think it even used to split the tracks automatically but I might be wrong. Plug it into usb and it's a HDD ready to have anything copied to it without hassle... No need for shitty iTunes, no complaints about wav files and never found an MP3 it couldn't play.

I remember thinking that surely people will realize over priced and feature limited products are an insult but no, the kids of the future I had so much hope for turned out to be gen z who care more about brand recognition than anyone ever before. I still think the feature rich generics will have their day, maybe generation alpha...

[–] CthuluVoIP@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

“Awkward spinning selector wheel”

Say what you want, but the iPod click wheel was anything but awkward. It was the most approachable and efficient interface and hardware on the market by miles and miles. Navigating other similar devices without it is an awful experience of buttons and layered menus that feel clunky and slow.

I won’t deny that the Arcos and other jukeboxes were incredible devices, but they lacked accessibility and mass appeal. Their size and expense kept most people from even considering getting one. They were absolutely an enthusiast’s device and nothing more.

The iPod ushered in the boom of portable media players and paved the road for Apple’s performance in the mobile phone space by establishing them as purveyors of a superior form factor and experience when it came to those devices. Apple owes its continued success in its personal computer and tablet product lines to the iPod’s design and their decision to focus on creating a cohesive ecosystem across their products based on those design principles.