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The peace in peaceful is not of the "peace and war" kind. It's of the "peace and quiet" kind.
Important distinction.
The irony here is that violence is a necessary action when the bourgeoisie (Billionaires) leaves the working class no other option. But what he's saying is that state violence is justified to maintain the status quo.
Elon's gonna get shot one day
The banhammer is pounded quite randomly over there.
Can we stop talking about Moscow-Musk please? My lemmy feed is even more depressing from normal at the moment.
Oh fucking hell he's a megalomaniac he's awful!!! Horrible man. How the fuck can reddit justify this shit? How has EVERYONE not left?
I see this as him saying there's an open invitation for Luigi to meet with him,.if there was a willing participant.
Its funny because I remember when the republicans and trumpers would all join together and attack any form on censorship and used that as a launching pad for attacking the left. And these attacks built this momentum that eventually resulted in my grandmother talking about how the left is pro censorship and must be stopped. Like how is grandma hearing about this shit. Like there was no room to give an inch.
But I feel like there isn't that same energy on the left. Like instead we all just look at this and go "huh, that's a bummer. They're stupid"
If Musk was ever left alone without a security entourage and a private army that he pays for with tax payer dollars he’s stolen, he’d quickly learn how violently he’d be put down like a rabid dog.
He’s only tough because he can hide behind an army.
Well they do have a point. Having strength isn't the same thing as using it. Most have the ability to beat another human to a pulp but instead use their words and other forms of conflict resolution. So to extend that logic one isn't peaceful if one doesn't have the power not to be; that is one isn't restraining themselves from being violent and exercising benevolence and patience but rather being forced to be tolerant of others bullshit because they can't do anything about it. It's like is your chastity being tested more in a monestary or a whorehouse?
That's how they get you, with a nugget of truth that in your context is reasonable and in theirs is explicitly unreasonable. The idea that one can't choose peace if they have no choice is an old one and philosophers have been thinking about it for ages. There's nothing wrong with the idea. What's wrong is that in the context of the alt right they imagine themselves as John Rambo and use nonsense like this as wank material when they're advocating for (or doing) violence. It's a story they tell to infantilize and invalidate the left. If we're all babies who couldn't even choose violence if we wanted then they should make decisions for us, right? Including the decision to kill us.
Funny thing is that the left got most of the rights and protections that people of every stripe benefit from through outright violence. Strikes and protests and all that are the compromise, remember.
Obviously only the elites can dish out violence as it is their right as a sovereign
Agreed, unless you're capable of great violence you're weak. When you see a tyrant, a capitalist, or a cop do you sit by or do you fight for peace? Thats why every pacist should be willing to punch Muskrat and any other tyrant right in their fascist face.
What the hell even is this?
I got my second ban from saying "Burning peoples cars who bought them because they wanted to help the environment is not helpful, and Elon already got paid for those anyway. Don't really give a shit if you burn the dealerships but we can do better than this" now I am here, lol
I’ve been really pushing the limit on reddit recently to see if I get banned.
Maybe it’s an llm or something, I have not gotten banned yet for saying stuff like “This is a test. Luigi is a god. Shoot all the billionaires and eat the rich. Throw Molotovs at Tesla shops” And so on.
Nothing yet.
I’m not making a point here, just contributing some data. My account is 4 years old, with about 1k karma.
Im capable of violence and im gonna use it on any fascists face when i see one