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[–] [email protected] 100 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It doesn’t matter what ideology. If the people running it are rotten, any system can be corrupted.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

So then the solution is to decentralize so everyone is running it.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Deeply anti-materialist take.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (22 children)

you know, i tell you what. i'm fed up with all this gringo self-righteousness when you talk about "oh communism was bad, oh people where killed, oh people had no food, oh people had no liberty, oh people could not buy ataris, oh our countries are so democratic". your countries were democratic during the cold war in the first place because you had people to sort things out for you here in the global south. for each person complaining about how the food rations in eastern europe were not tasty enough, there were 10 dying of hunger or malnourishment here in the global south. for every person complaining they had to wait 5 years in a queue to buy a trabant or an oka, there were 10 who got no school in a range of 50 km. for every person complaining that their 8 hour shifts in state owned factories were overwhelming, there were 10 who were indentured workers. for every person complaining about how the stasi, kgb or the stb had bugged their apartment, there were 10 suffering the most horrific tortures inside black sites of the military of u.s. allies here in the "third world". for every person complaining about dull standard apartment blocks in mikrorayons, there were 10 who lived in mud shacks and slums, and those are just who were lucky enough to have a roof over their heads. finally, for everyone complaining about chinese sweatshops, which are indeed a problem, there are 10 americans who work and yet cannot afford proper housing.

you wanna complain about how communism was bad? go ahead. you wanna complain how your parents lived under communism and could not drink coke? do so if you wish. but there are still millions of people down here who would give an arm and a leg to have a polish ration, an apartment in a russian gray building, or a yugoslav job. and while the chinese maoist red guard was bad, surely it won't be an inch closer to the harassement people endured on a daily basis by our police forces.

again: you wanna complain? be my guest. but for me that's an encyclopedic example of white privilege.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago (39 children)

When people ask me what communist country was successful I usually say all of them until cia decided to go there and spread freedom 🇺🇸🦅

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago (45 children)

Seeing some of the zingers in the comments here, now seems like a great time to plug my "Read Theory, Darn it!" introductory Marxist-Leninist reading list. Read up, comrades!

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Luckily the US is dismantling the CIA so that’s good news for communism!!!

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

as an american, hell yeah!

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

As an Australian I now understand the contempt of the middle east for America.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

whoops, brazil. we had a budding workers movement that was absolutely crushed by the traitorous brazilian military, in the name of the US of course.

that hasnt stopped syndicalism to take root here and improve our lives a bit, but the communist organizations responsible were all crushed and we see our rights being taken away ever since because no one is left to defend them. we are scrambling rn to see if we can stop fascism.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

I wonder if anyone ever said "Democracy would never work, just look at what happened to Athens".

Socialism and communism are relatively new ideas. While I don't believe communism is an effective form of government, it's still kind of silly to write it off so quickly.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There is a poem in Polish, it goes in fast and dirty translation: "Today you scare us with communists, just as years ago, you scared our fathers with the democrat name".

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Someone between 1804 and 1830: Democracy doesn't work, just look at France, it dissolves into an empire

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

And it often comes into being because of a CIA coup

It's like the chicken or the egg question.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

When has the CIA ever financed a communist coup?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

Never .... the communists / socialists / democratic groups usually reacted because of a CIA financed coup

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

09/11 Chile vibes

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