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I'm asking because as a light-skinned male, I always use the standard Simpsons yellow. I don't really see other light-skinned people using an emoji that matches their skin tone, but often do see people of color use them. Maybe white people don't naturally realize a need to be explicit with emoji skin-tone or perhaps it's seen as implicitly identifying or requesting white privilege.

  • Is there a significance to using skin-tone emojis, and if so, what is it?

  • Assuming there might be a racial movement attached to the first question, how does my use of emojis, both Simpsons yellow and light-skin, interact with or contribute to that?

Note: I am an autistic white Latino-American cis-gendered man that aims to be socially just.

Autistic text stim: blekh 😝 blekh 😝 blekh 😝 blekh 😝 blekh 😝 !!

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Use what you want to. Let others use what they want to. Don't overthink it.

Some people are thrilled with the fact that they can make their little online avatar closer to their reality, others don't give a damn, because they don't want to define themselves by their virtual presence. At the end of the day, though, they're just pixels. What you say and how you treat people is much more important than whatever little +1 icon gets attached.

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago
[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

There's no significance because they are just fucking emojis.

Simpsons yellow

:D

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Everyone simply saw the yellow ones as neutral toned. It's a nice contrasting color to show the emotion and they have always done a good job representing everyone while serving their goal: to convey emotion in text.

The push for representation in emoji's always struck me as weird since they already represented everyone. I rarely see people using them who aren't a bit too focused on skin color in their day-to-day life.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

That, and I think they trace a direct lineage back to the original Harvey Ross Ball smiley face, which was also yellow.

Me, I don't particularly care about matching emoji skintones to myself. Rather, I'm much more annoyed that I can't tune the 🏍️ emoji to match the color of my motorcycle. What a rip off.

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

...since they already represented everyone.

Did they really? Because if that were the case we wouldn't have different skin tones for emojis with people claiming they feel more represented by them or happy to use them because they have the same skin tone.

[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, they did. The Canadian flag represents all Canadians. The BC province flag may represent me more closely, but it doesn't stop the Canada flag from doing the same. While some people will be happy they can represent themselves more accurately to real life, it also makes for more exclusive use cases. I think there's an argument to be made for keeping things simple and broadly usable.

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can give you a real answer, because I asked my wife this exact question (she's black and uses the skin tone closest to hers, I'm white and also just use yellow ones). She said it's so rare to get to choose a digital representation that matches her skin tone that she just thinks it's fun to get to do it for once.

Does the skin tone modifier work on the peach emoji?

[–] blusterydayve26@midwest.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The original emojis were white before the yellow and darker tones were added in 2015. Look up Katrina Parrott for the backstory. In short, before yellow was the default, White was the only option, and that’s kinda racist, and was only 9 years ago.

Yellow was simply a neutral addition to emojis that matched well with the existing yellow smiley face (which that French asshole keeps charging people for).

Thanks for questioning your assumptions. Further reading if you’re interested:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/pranavdixit/katrina-parrott-skin-tone-emojis-patent-office-warren

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=parrot+skin+tone+emoji+&t=ffip&ia=web

[–] loomi@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Also the first gen iPhone emoji were a Japanese add on pack, iirc a keyboard addition. I had to install this add on on my iphone3g while I lived in Japan. Those emoji had average Japanese skin which white people just assumed was white. Only after those optional emoji got popular did apple make it standard, android copied, then people got worried about range of skin tone seeing as the Unicode was a global standard.