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[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 145 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

The solution is more left-wing protest groups. Especially now that their manpower is down. (Edit: they're their)

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 2 years ago (27 children)

more left-wing protest groups

That can defend themselves. Not many will openly protest otherwise if the leaders get picked off like snacks at a buffet.

I don’t think that comes naturally to most USA leftists, most of whom only experienced how it used to be in the last 40 years.

It will take a while to learn again. Should look to see how the civil rights movements protected themselves and labor before that

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We can look to the French for how crowds surrounded individuals who physically fought back, preventing their capture by authorities. That was a vid I saw on the old site. Dude walloped some cops and then people pulled him into their ranks and made a wall.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Then the cops found out who it was days later and charged him

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wear a mask and don't post videos from protests with recognizable faces.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Good advice. But wearing a mask in public (dissimulating your face in general) is actually illegal in France (because of Sarkozy iirc). Not saying people stopped doing it at protests but it gives an excuse to the police to arrest you even if you are not being violent.

Edit : I just checked, the fine increases 10 to 20 fold for doing it at a protest...

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

COVID's still going strong and your mask "is for health protection". Crowds of people like that make for fertile ground for disease to spread which is all the more reason for people to mask up and for fellow protestors to hand out surgical masks.

An even better solution is a full face covering respirator to avoid eye exposure. From disease ~or~ ~chemical~ ~weapons~ ~used~ ~by~ ~police~ ~against~ ~their~ ~own~ ~citizens~.

[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Some laws need to be broken. No government is going to allow you to legally overthrow them.

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[–] fieryhamster@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Patel is a kiddy diddler just like Elon and Trump.

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[–] DonJefe@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (3 children)

How long until something really bad happens because the FBI is busy prosecuting Trump's political rivals instead of doing their job?

[–] doug@lemmy.today 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I feel like Kent State is going to be a footnote by comparison.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago

Maybe longer than most expect.

There is a bunch of lead time for all sides to get up to speed, maybe more than a year?

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Remember when Right wingers were calling leftists & liberals fascists.

Right-wingers project & shift the blames of their crimes onto the left

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

gaslighting, obstruct, project.

[–] TurnOnTheSunflower@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This is why we (europeans) should all fight more surveillance. Who knows when it's our turn to face fascism.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago
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[–] Cephiroth@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I’m beginning to think the Constitution needs an ~~amendment~~ appendix that has definitions of terms, i.e. ‘peaceful protests’

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

The problem with the Constitution is that it doesn't have enough clauses for the executive branch to ignore.

[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

those that make peaceful protest impossible...

[–] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

New boss same as old bosses. The intelligence agencies have always been the servant of fascism.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago

This is not business as usual

[–] Bread_and_Circuses@reddthat.com 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's a BS "both sides-ism" that can result in people shrugging off the absolute destruction of the operational norms. I wouldn't argue that the two primary parties are heading in the same direction of fascism. However, there's a significant difference between the gleeful sprinting towards it by the right as compared to the Dems dragging their feet and enjoying the scenery.

While the 100 year result might be the same if there isn't systemic change, one side (primarily by inaction) will provide more time to correct course before hitting the iceberg

[–] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Historically, the intelligence agencies have opposed leftism and equality movements, and played with kids gloves where right wing is concerned. This is because right wing policies tend to be backed by the elite, who butter the bread of the agencies.

[–] Bread_and_Circuses@reddthat.com 5 points 2 years ago

Agree 100% and it has always been frustrating to see right wing groups get a pass for what boils down to "mild" terrorism. I just think that, given the current US political climate, it's detrimental to lump the parties together. I'm only a defender of the Dem Party when in contrast to the GOP. Otherwise there's a litany of grievances I'd aim at them.

[–] BookSnob@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

Repeat after me… Kash Patel is a panchod fudu, and his mom is a third rate gandi randi.

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