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https://x.com/Truthful_ast/status/1898155564670103896

Starship engine bay camera showing a missing vacuum Raptor engine

https://x.com/halcyonhypnotic/status/1898251889239617821

Now, I don’t know the validity of this message, it’s sent by the same guy who leaked the s34 aft section after the explosion picture, take it as you will.

First-hand: Starship S34 crash details.

Yesterday's post in the channel about the preliminary causes of the Flight 8 crash is confirmed for now. What else we managed to find out:

  • Data indicates that the problem like on S33 during Flight 7 has repeated.
  • Again, harmonic oscillations in the distribution of vacuum-insulated fuel lines for RVac (one of the innovations of V2 and the distribution for S34).
  • This crash was more destructive than during Flight 7, the corrections to the distribution for S34 did not work or turned out to be almost worse.
  • Another source leaked a frame from the engine bay after the TPA and RVac nozzle rupture, and one central Raptor engine.
  • Problems with the rupture of methane lines in the oxygen tank only appear as the tank empties.
  • When filled, liquid oxygen dampens the oscillations of the distributed lines, when the tank is empty, they increase.
  • Harmonics cause a break in the lines in the lower part, where the main wiring for the RVac is located.
  • Leaks also caused the engines and regenerative cooling to malfunction, which led to the explosion during the fire in the compartment.
  • The updated nitrogen suppression and compartment purge system would not have been able to cope with such a volume of leakage.

The information below may change, but for now:

  • Hot separation also aggravates the situation in the compartment.
  • Not related to the flames from the Super Heavy during the booster turn.
  • This is a fundamental miscalculation in the design of the Starship V2 and the engine section.
  • The fuel lines, wiring for the engines and the power unit will be urgently redone.
  • The fate of S35 and S36 is still unclear. Either revision or scrap.
  • For the next ships, some processes may be paused in production until a decision on the design is made.
  • The team was rushed with fixes for S34, hence the nervous start. There was no need to rush.
  • The fixes will take much longer than 4-6 weeks.
  • Comprehensive ground testing with long-term fire tests is needed.
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[–] xylene@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

The team was rushed with fixes

"You will never remember the many times the launch slipped, but the on-time failures are with you always." --Walt Williams

[–] jia_tan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

⭕️↖️ suboptimal

[–] Silic0n_Alph4@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rapid Unscheduled Engine Hot-Swap 🤷🏻‍♀️

That’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point.

"Well, how is it un-typical?"