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Trudeau’s message to American people: 'Your government has chosen to do this to you' (www.ctvnews.ca)

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[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the maga cult that forced this on us.

Does it not feel like 'checks and balances' doesn't actually work, and hasn't been working?

I feel like the billionaire class, controlling through propaganda, a large loud minority of unintelligent, low educated bigots, resulting in what we're seeing. Essentially the destruction of what was an amazing country.

The imbeciles who voted for this are too stupid to understand the consequences. The bigots and racists are just voting their bigotry.

We need better checks and balances. I don't know what that is though.

[–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I feel it’s like the Internet, people aren’t using it for what it was really designed for. The Internet was never created for security, was intended for sharing knowledge.

People have managed to use The Government in a way it was not intended lol

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Trudeau speaks the truth. Our government did this to us. The billionaires who preferred this administration and sat as the feudal lords at the swearing-in did this to us. The corporations who backed Trump who see his admin as a tax shelter, who would lobby to favor employers over employees did this to us. The corporate and social media who see themselves as arbitors and gatekeepers of "free speech," who choose to see objectivity through bipolar both-sides mania instead of an ethical lens did this to us. The system pits us against each other to bicker, fight, and mame for every scrap that falls off their table instead of focusing our rage collectively against those seated there. They did this to us.

The whole damn system is guilty as hell.

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

Respectfully, we made the choice ourselves.

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Is Canada accepting American refugees yet

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not really "our government". Trump has chosen to do this.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Almost the entire republican reps in the house and senate either support him or are doing nothing to go against him.

[–] wiLD0@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’d bet the people who vote Democrat are also unhappy with how little their representatives are doing, even if their party is in a position of ineffectuality for the next 2 years.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah they're doing nothing now, but my biggest worry is that the dems are thinking/planning on how to swing farther right, as their method to get more voters. I can't see them getting more progressive. When we had bernie looking very promising in 2016 they literally teamed together to make sure he didn't win. He aint even that progressive. Yeah dems are doing nothing now, but when they do start doing anything it might not be what progressives want.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True, but at the same time, it's not their idea, they aren't that stupid. Nobody is.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

I'd say them just letting it happen is arguably more stupid

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not really. We chose this.

The American people are, on average, fascist dipshits.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ah, my painful, and depressed upvote. It’s the most inconvenient truth that we have collectively chosen this. Sure, our elections aren’t exactly fair, and there’s a lot of bias, but the failure to clearly and decisively reject him is a failure of the people.

I most certainly did not vote for him, but most of the people who did vote in my state, well, they chose it on purpose.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

31%. I’d argue the other 69% aren’t, and are largely just confused and checked out.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But why. Why are they checked out?

You can blame it on a lot of things, but it always just comes down to ideology, the kind of passive shit like pay scales being taboo or putting up with parochialism or letting advertising everywhere slide.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Probably because no matter who wins the election, all the stuff you just mentioned doesn’t change anyway. People feel powerless. Everyone’s broke and worked to death. There’s no more mental bandwidth for politics. Politics is an alien subject for a lot of people.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, exactly: politics being an alien subject is the result of ideology. It’s deeply ideological. It must be addressed in day to day interactions and in culture and by educators and at kitchen tables. No one can fix it but the individual pushing forward together with friends.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s not conscious on the part of most. The vast majority of folks are ignorant to the effects of politics on their lives, again because their lived experience shows that it doesn’t matter to how they live their lives.

People get together and go to church every weekend because it’s what they grew up doing. They don’t question because questions got you beat or yelled at. So they live their lives in the manner that chafes less. Anything that upsets the very delicate balance of their lives gets ignored, because paying attention to it risks an upheaval of how they live their lives.

Sure, there are plenty that cross the line into actually believing that the Nazis in power are okay, but most honestly don’t care. They don’t vote, say they did to the one friend they have that cares, and move on. Most don’t even consume news, much less read articles. They’re ignorant.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I should also add that your attitude of helplessness in this matter illustrates my point nicely.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 4 points 1 year ago

I’m only saying what I’ve observed, not that I personally feel that way. If anything, I probably over-consume political content and right now I’m pissed the fuck off that we had two world wars over this shit and we can’t seem to get rid of the Nazis.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, ideology has to be actively and persuasively countered by those who are more objective.

Which is why people are so irritated by all the us citizens posting “don’t blame me!”

[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-JeSpLVcaY