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[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

But what if the entirety of people making themselves obstacles to a kinder world actually start to push the world away from kindness? What if they force the world towards hate until that hate breaks the world, wars are started and thousands die? Are those obstacles still to be respected?

In other words, how does the statement in the OP stack up to the paradoxon of tolerance? "If you are tolerant towards the intolerant, you will find the intolerant break your tolerant world."

[–] GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

See this is where I said "context is king"

Because I assumed the quote meant that you don't have to respect the free will of all beings, especially those who make themselves an obstacle to a kinder world.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

Respecting their free will can mean acknowledging it's a choice they are free to make, and so are the consequences of it (in this case, opposing them).

[–] Kingofthezyx@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Don't mistake respect (acknowledgement) for "respect" (authority)

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I could be wrong but my understanding of it means “don’t make excuses that someone doesn’t know when they’re being repeatedly callous and evil.”

In other words, acknowledge they’re making conscious choices with their own free will and behave accordingly (say, Nuremberg style if we’re being polite).

[–] fakir@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Waves of hate might be destructive, but the ocean eventually settles in calm harmony. Hate is self destructive, it is therefore short lived. Love prevails, and it is therefore eternal.

[–] faltryka@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Brennan Lee Mulligan is a treasure.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Respecting their free will doesnt prevent me from shooting them in the head if they are a Nazi.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

That's what epitaphs are for, after all

[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago

Both a thing to think about...

.... And the entire plot of Sonic the Hedgehog (IDW Comics, 2017) summarised in a single sentence.