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[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago

All this death, suffering and sacrifice, only to be back-stabbed by a corrupt American oligarch and his goons.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Talking is allways good, but I expect that atleast two parties are arguing in bath faith.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I don't expect much of a result when the "deal" is expecting one side to give up everything for nothing.

[–] Lorindol@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Trump negotiating wirh Putin is like a clueless kindergartener playing chess with national master.

They're going to force Ukraine to give up on Crimea and the eastern occupied terrritories, but Ukraine gets back some strictly defined areas where rare earth metals can be exploited.

Trump will consider this as an absolute victory and in the near future Europe will pay the heavy price if Russian aggression is rewarded this way.

EDIT: Changed "Krim" to "Crimea" to avoid misunderstandings.

[–] TwinkleToes@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

He works for the Russians, always has, these jackoff tarriffs which only seem to be against allies is meant to disrupt the focus on Ukraine's backers and force an immediate settlement where Ukraine only makes any concessions. It's clear as goddamned mid-day sun that everything he's doing is to unsettle NATO and get a win for Russia.

That proves several things, including his overall allegiances. It also suggests that Russia is truly desperate, doesn't think they will get more Ukrainian land than they currently have, and want to freeze the conflict to call it a victory. The current strategy of thrusting small infantry squads anywhere you can fit them isn't exactly a solid occupation strategy. Ukraine can kill many more of them, eventually, with drones, snipers, artillery, and counter-assaults. There isn't a baked in guarantee that they're allowed to keep all the stolen land they're sitting on right now. Ukraine will kill most of them - eventually - and he'll be left with nothing but a bleeding wound as his army tries to do the harder piece of warfare - pacification.

It's in Ukraine's long term interests to keep killing the Russian army as long as it can sustain it's own losses.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

How likely is Ukraine to accept it though, or Europe to step up support to replace the US.