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Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, encouraged by Donald Trump’s return to power, hosted Germany’s far-right AfD leader Alice Weidel, calling the party the "future" of Germany.

He aims to unite Europe’s far-right in the EU Parliament and praised AfD’s anti-immigration stance. Weidel, in turn, lauded Hungary as a "role model."

AfD, polling at 21% ahead of Germany’s February 23 election, has gained mainstream recognition, with CDU leader Friedrich Merz breaking precedent by seeking AfD support in parliament.

Orban’s Patriots for Europe bloc seeks further far-right influence in Brussels.

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[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 51 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Is there a German word for "an endorsement that has a net negative effect"?

[–] alleycat@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"Bärendienst", as in "A well meaning action that has unintended negative consequences"?

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And literally meaning "bear service", I think? That's hilarious. The most formidable beast of the wilds of Europe, simply a bumbling little guy always making things worse when they try to help

[–] lime@feddit.nu 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

it's from an 1800 year old Indian fable about a bear who crushes his friend's skull with a rock in an attempt to kill an annoying fly.

many european languages seem to have the expression.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 4 points 10 months ago

Oooh that's cool, thank you for sharing

[–] GojuRyu@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah I recognized the german as being equivalent to the danish bjørnetjeneste, which also means bear service or slightly more accurately a bear favor.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

I'll take it!

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the whole of the EU knows Hungary is our corrupt little member.

This might make some far right wingers realize that fascism is only good for the powerful and wealthy.

[–] Matombo@feddit.org 5 points 10 months ago

ha ha, no, right wingers only realize stuff when they personally are affected and sometimes not even then. See the USA right now.

[–] Matombo@feddit.org 18 points 10 months ago

Nazis praising nazis. In other news today: Water is wet.

[–] mat@jlai.lu 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What do the nazis thought of central Europeans? This would only be survival instinct to never ally with them

[–] banghida@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Weren't Nazis also central Europeans?

[–] mat@jlai.lu 3 points 10 months ago

They thought the same stuff about Jews and Salvic people so, and usually, Germany is considered western Europe

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Germany is typically classified as Western European so no.

Edit: I'm wrong.

[–] banghida@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 10 months ago

Oh I did not know that. That's fair.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago

I am not sure, they delineated based on race not necessarily nationality, they hated Slavic people but Hungarians are not Slavic.

All in all, Hitler gave back territory lost in WWI to Hungary, so I think they just didn't care.

Fuck Hitler, Szálasi and Horthy with a spiky stick though.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think it's the past of Germany if anything...

[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

only if you assume their Nazi problem ever went away

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Their Nazis in charge problem went away.

[–] Matombo@feddit.org 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

that might change in just under 2 weeks from now

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

It indeed might. But not for now.

[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

lol, the AfD is literally in the Bundestag and all state parliaments

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do you understand what being in charge means? Because they aren’t.

[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

there are polls saying they could come in second in the elections this month. and some CDU members planning a coalition. I wouldn't be so optimistic. regardless if they win or not, the mainstream parties have already adopted their Nazi propaganda to win over their base so their goal is already being enacted

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I am aware that nothing in human civilization lasts forever apart from xenophobia and bigotry. Stating facts is not optimism. Until they gain power again, they are still Germany's past, not Germany's future.

[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

no, you just have a very mainstream liberal view of how power actually works. it's not just party in charge = this is the political course of the country

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

No, I have a "very mainstream liberal view" of how time works. Until something that happens happens again, it's part of the past.

I have no idea how you can read the words, "I am aware that nothing in human civilization lasts forever apart from xenophobia and bigotry" and then try to act like I said the exact opposite. Or did you just not read them?

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Both are the human equivalent of loud wet sharts.

[–] Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Future for him.

Hopefully not, as he doesn't deserve any future.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

is the german government fighting it in any way or are they going to wait until it’s too late and then cry?

[–] Matombo@feddit.org 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Worse: They try to make them small again by becoming them. Spoiler: It didn't work. The AfD is now stronger then ever and has other parties draged torwards their inhuman propaganda.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fuck yeah, nationalist Germany is exactly what I needed for my 2020’s bingo card.

[–] Matombo@feddit.org 1 points 10 months ago

what is missing?

just that i can prepare ...

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 10 months ago

Unfortunately he's probably right.