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Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, encouraged by Donald Trump’s return to power, hosted Germany’s far-right AfD leader Alice Weidel, calling the party the "future" of Germany.

He aims to unite Europe’s far-right in the EU Parliament and praised AfD’s anti-immigration stance. Weidel, in turn, lauded Hungary as a "role model."

AfD, polling at 21% ahead of Germany’s February 23 election, has gained mainstream recognition, with CDU leader Friedrich Merz breaking precedent by seeking AfD support in parliament.

Orban’s Patriots for Europe bloc seeks further far-right influence in Brussels.

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[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is there a German word for "an endorsement that has a net negative effect"?

[–] alleycat@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Bärendienst", as in "A well meaning action that has unintended negative consequences"?

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And literally meaning "bear service", I think? That's hilarious. The most formidable beast of the wilds of Europe, simply a bumbling little guy always making things worse when they try to help

[–] lime@feddit.nu 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

it's from an 1800 year old Indian fable about a bear who crushes his friend's skull with a rock in an attempt to kill an annoying fly.

many european languages seem to have the expression.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 4 points 1 year ago

Oooh that's cool, thank you for sharing

[–] GojuRyu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah I recognized the german as being equivalent to the danish bjørnetjeneste, which also means bear service or slightly more accurately a bear favor.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

I'll take it!

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, the whole of the EU knows Hungary is our corrupt little member.

This might make some far right wingers realize that fascism is only good for the powerful and wealthy.

[–] Matombo@feddit.org 5 points 1 year ago

ha ha, no, right wingers only realize stuff when they personally are affected and sometimes not even then. See the USA right now.

[–] Matombo@feddit.org 18 points 1 year ago

Nazis praising nazis. In other news today: Water is wet.

[–] mat@jlai.lu 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What do the nazis thought of central Europeans? This would only be survival instinct to never ally with them

[–] banghida@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Weren't Nazis also central Europeans?

[–] mat@jlai.lu 3 points 1 year ago

They thought the same stuff about Jews and Salvic people so, and usually, Germany is considered western Europe

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Germany is typically classified as Western European so no.

Edit: I'm wrong.

[–] banghida@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 1 year ago

Oh I did not know that. That's fair.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

I am not sure, they delineated based on race not necessarily nationality, they hated Slavic people but Hungarians are not Slavic.

All in all, Hitler gave back territory lost in WWI to Hungary, so I think they just didn't care.

Fuck Hitler, Szálasi and Horthy with a spiky stick though.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's the past of Germany if anything...

[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

only if you assume their Nazi problem ever went away

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Their Nazis in charge problem went away.

[–] Matombo@feddit.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that might change in just under 2 weeks from now

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It indeed might. But not for now.

[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol, the AfD is literally in the Bundestag and all state parliaments

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you understand what being in charge means? Because they aren’t.

[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

there are polls saying they could come in second in the elections this month. and some CDU members planning a coalition. I wouldn't be so optimistic. regardless if they win or not, the mainstream parties have already adopted their Nazi propaganda to win over their base so their goal is already being enacted

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, I am aware that nothing in human civilization lasts forever apart from xenophobia and bigotry. Stating facts is not optimism. Until they gain power again, they are still Germany's past, not Germany's future.

[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

no, you just have a very mainstream liberal view of how power actually works. it's not just party in charge = this is the political course of the country

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No, I have a "very mainstream liberal view" of how time works. Until something that happens happens again, it's part of the past.

I have no idea how you can read the words, "I am aware that nothing in human civilization lasts forever apart from xenophobia and bigotry" and then try to act like I said the exact opposite. Or did you just not read them?

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Both are the human equivalent of loud wet sharts.

[–] Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Future for him.

Hopefully not, as he doesn't deserve any future.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

is the german government fighting it in any way or are they going to wait until it’s too late and then cry?

[–] Matombo@feddit.org 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Worse: They try to make them small again by becoming them. Spoiler: It didn't work. The AfD is now stronger then ever and has other parties draged torwards their inhuman propaganda.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck yeah, nationalist Germany is exactly what I needed for my 2020’s bingo card.

[–] Matombo@feddit.org 1 points 1 year ago

what is missing?

just that i can prepare ...

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately he's probably right.