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[–] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 106 points 1 year ago (18 children)

the good thing is that they just created a mastodon account

https://mastodon.social/@distrowatch

embrace the fediverse !😎😎

[–] her01n@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can I follow them from my programming.dev account?

[–] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 10 points 1 year ago

No, I don't think Lemmy supports following users.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

It was pretty upsetting that they didn't link to it in their announcement that they joined mastodon. Thanks for linking it here

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[–] sxan@midwest.social 72 points 1 year ago

Are there any server admins who aren't blocking Threads? Everyone should be.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I can't wait to read the next version of the "First they came for..." sermon and see where Linux users fall on it...

What an absurd timeline.

Edit:

DistroWatch says that the Facebook ban took effect on January 19.

Right. Just a coincidence though, I'm sure...

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

What, you think a founder who is riding the dick of a fascist coincidentally made a bunch of bad moves? /s

[–] jnk@masto.es 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@neme what the heck did I just read. Doesn't Facebook depend on linux servers? This zuck guy is just banning shit for the sake of it at this point

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And Meta / Facebook is one of the top supporters for Linux Foundation at Platinum level (Microsoft too): https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/members

[–] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 11 points 1 year ago

Linux community should keep its distance from the Linux Foundation

[–] jnk@masto.es 3 points 1 year ago

@thingsiplay so they are investing/donating to malware? Is that what they think they're doing? It would be funny if that was the case, ngl

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I assume this must be some new Ai tech they use in the back. And it doesn't work well. I can't think of any reason why Facebook would do this intentionally.

[–] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Copenhagen-hosted DistroWatch says it has tried to appeal against the Community Standards-triggered ban. However, they say that a Facebook representative said that Linux topics would remain on the cybersecurity filter.

Nope, this one isn't ignorance, it's actual malice. They fully intended to start blocking Linux topics.

When you take this and pair it with what Larry Ellison just recently said:

AI will ensure "citizens will be on their best behavior"

There tends to be a pattern forming that I really don't want to draw because I like tinfoil on my head.

[–] Badabinski@kbin.earth 20 points 1 year ago

I hate him I hate him I hate him I hate him I hate him

Fucking lawnmower piece of shit. Do not fall into the trap of anthropomorphizing Larry Ellison.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Whirling_Cloudburst@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Facebook makes money off of surveillance and many Linux communities like to make that harder. So I'm thinking its about money and big brother.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 points 1 year ago

We are all super cool hackers obviously

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their whole purpose is monopolization of advertising engagement to make money for shareholders. Collecting user data, building profiles, targeted ads, prioritizing rage bait and conspiracies and misinformation, hiding alternatives like open source software and distributed community supported software, are all in support of that goal.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Somehow I imagine that Microsoft might be involved in this, most likely through some quid pro quo to pimp its users for facebook. Its either that or its just that facebook sees linux as a threat as its not data harvesting like microsoft and facebook are, but I find it hard to believe that facebook would do this purely to protect the closed source market without also getting microsoft to pitch in someway. Why would facebook want a free operating system that doesnt harvest data to exist? Id be worried too.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If you understand linux it's only a small leap to understand selfhosting. If you understand selfhosting it's only a small jump to hosting your own Fediverse instances, thereby completely eliminating your dependency on the big social media giants.

Anecdote for support:

In only two days I went from "I can use BASH and the GNU Coreutils for most of my daily tasks on my PC" to "I understand networking well enough, own a domain with several webapps, and have successfully gained independence from the tech giants regarding cloud storage."

In two days, with only the purchase of a domain for about $10US, I've saved myself $15/mo from spotify, and over $40 from all the video streaming apps by rolling out Jellyfin, as well as Regained ownership of my photos from Google by downloading everything as a zip and rehosting it on my selfhosted immich instance.

This stuff is genuinely not difficult, it's tedious for sure, and for an OSS noob it will take some time, certainly more than it took me.

Oh shit. I hope we on Lemmy can still have our little thing. It would be kinda lonely without Americans...

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Very late but curious. How difficult is it for someone who genuinely never has used Linux before, to go those leaps? Someone who's not braindead à la "grandma doesn't know what the red X button is or does", but just a basic user "I've heard of a terminal and you can do commands with it but idk, I use maps and files...".

Like is there a self hosting guide for idiots?

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It can be a lot, I'm a year in and still feel like a noob. I've only just now moved from being behind a cloudflare tunnel to being behind a proper reverse-proxy. That doesn't mean anything to you yet, it will!

There's plenty of guides to get started. Louis Rossman did a 12hr guide on selfhosting your entire life (I still haven't watched the whole thing).

I started here with this guide: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IuRWqzfX1ik It's short, sweet, easy to digest.

If you wanna start super easy.

  1. Buy a domain
  2. Set up a cloudflare tunnel
  3. Roll out whatever using docker
  4. Point your tunnel to the docker ports.

This works around CGNAT, and bypasses the need for port forwarding BUT it keeps you reliant on a corpo and keeps all your data moving through their servers, which means low upload limits and your traffic could (see: will) be monitored.

Anything your exposing to the internet should be considered disposable until you know enough to keep a server online safely. Keep backups, offsite. If you have 1 backup, you have no backups. If you only have onsite backups, you have no backups.

Most servers you're gonna want to run will come with relatively detailed documentation for rolling things out, but when it comes to security you'll be on your own. This is because the optimal security configuration for your needs depends on your threat model. Until learning proper network security, I'd recommend paying for a VPS to host your servers on and connecting via proxmox or a similar tool, lest you risk leaving gaping security holes in your home network.

Have fun, happy selfhosting, feel free to DM me if you need assistance, I'm not on lemmy often anymore but my inbox goes to my RSS aggregator so I'll see it.

oh, and PS. Don't selfhost your email, it's not worth the hassle.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But how many mainstream or “normie” users are going to do any of that? But I guess if Facebook feels threatened, that’s a step in the right direction. That’s competition, which capitalism says is supposed to be good, right….

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Every normie doesn't need to spin up an instance to hurt meta, just enough of them that migration becomes noticeable

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Server admins who agree to this are going to get some kinda white hat exemption but otherwise it’s black hats for all. Gotta have a simple reason to call you a threat to an idiot population.

[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Linux is probably insecure. Also GPL sounds like communism." ...did I just get mysteriously whisked back to 1998? Because that was the last time I heard this shit.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Listen, if you want free software, you're an enemy of capitalism, traitor.

/s goddamnit, I hate that I have to be explicit about it. Learn to read internet posts.

[–] MadhuGururajan@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you are an enemy of capitalists though, at least thats how those pigs see it. Your /s was because people thought you were criticising free software and the GPL? Huh, guess there's more than one way to slice the dough...

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, I am an enemy of capitalism. I have to throw in the /s to not get downvoted or banned. People don't know when sarcasm appears in print.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Their servers must run on air

[–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What Linux user uses Facebook? Although I can see boomers doing it

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 points 1 year ago

I am an admin for my job's page on FB. I don't have it installed on my phone, I have to sit down at a PC to use it. I don't post anything personal. Also, since I'm already on there, I represent my team on a team game's recruiting page. But man do I hate FB. Yesterday my wife asked me to put something up on Marketplace. I answered I don't want to be there at all. I am moving 90% of my job's Win10 PCs over to Linux tho. I'm not a boomer.

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