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US officials say Gaza deal on edge of collapse (www.politico.com)

submitted 2 years ago by Linkerbaan@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

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The deal to bring an end to the fighting in Gaza is on the brink of collapsing — and there is no clear immediate alternative agreement that could be put forward in its place, according to two U.S. and two Israeli officials.

Both Israel and Hamas also disagree over Israel’s presence in both the Philadelphi Corridor, a stretch of land on the Egypt-Gaza border, and in a main throughway that leads to northern Gaza. Israel has said it wants to maintain its position in both places to ensure Hamas cannot smuggle goods in through Egypt and reposition its strongholds.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Israel has said it wants to maintain its position in both places to ensure Hamas cannot smuggle goods in through Egypt and reposition its strongholds.

Reminder that Israel smuggles millions of dollars into Gaza for Hamas, and Israeli politicians literally lobby other countries so they'll fund Hamas.

If anything, Israel wants a presence to ensure their boogean stays in power so they have an excuse to genocide.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/11/middleeast/qatar-hamas-funds-israel-backing-intl/index.html

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 6 points 2 years ago

Can't have a war when the opposition is weak. Where would be the fun in that.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

How about Netanyahu is in custody on corruption charges and someone who's literal survival doesn't depend on perpetual genocide takes the helm. Fucking tired of these old assholes ruining whays left of the world for their worthless survival. Nethanyahu needs to be eliminated, exterminated even I daresay

[–] TrashWizard@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Even from a completely cynical point of view, I'm amazed that there's been no serious attempt from within the Israeli state/establishment to remove him, by any means necessary.

Israel has spent most of its existence trying to build/maintain legitimacy among Western liberals, as well as internationally. They absolutely need this for their state to be a viable project in the long term.

This genocide and everything else about that man and his government has bulldozed right through that. It's basically impossible for any remotely normal person to be able to defend what's going on. I never thought I'd see the day when people like lifelong Tories I know IRL feel sympathy towards Palestinians and such disgust towards the stage of Israel.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

And he literally allowed Hamas to receive funding. Its bullshit, he contrived this entire outcome

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Well the government is quite popular. According to the opinion polls in Wikipedia the government coalition is polling above 40% and it seems to be in an uptrend.

[–] homura1650@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A 40% approval rating is not popular under any circumstances. A wartime government being underwater is damning.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Perhaps. That said they're gaining.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Polls show over 70% of Israelis want Netanyahu out.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Man this article is filled to the brim with propaganda it's amazing. Hamas already agreed to the ceasefire deal from June. Netanyahu just keeps adding new conditions of keeping israeli troops in Gaza. Politico points the blame finger to Hamas.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lol right "Israel has signed on"

The hell no they didn't. They demanded a temporary ceasefire every single time, even after Hamas agreed with the remaining conditions. Then Netanyahu made a fresh speech about how he won't sign anything until Gaza is nuked.

I'm pretty sure there was even a whole report indicating that Israel didn't expect Hamas to actually accept the terms so quickly because they were gonna use it as a way of indicating that Hamas doesn't want to negotiate a ceasefire. Except they literally accepted all the details, and Israel looked stupid for pretending to agree to the terms.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

The US even said it was "Israel's deal" and the UN signed on to it and approved it. The only people who haven't approved "Israel's deal" is Israel lol.

[–] Hexbatch@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Many have realized for months there is only one way this will end: with no Palestinians in Gaza. Later, I expect at least a million dead and the rest living elsewhere.

There are at least 1/5 that many dead now, and the famine and disease will start claiming victims at a faster rate.

Once Gaza is depopulated, Israel will force the West Bank out next.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Bruh.

They’ve been lying to you. Israel has no interest in a ceasefire. They just don’t want tell the gravy train to go fuck itself.

[–] EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd be surprised if it was ever on the brink of happening.

Brink of collapse? Has it ever been otherwise?

[–] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Oh yeah. Any time Netanyahu needs weapons, the talks are proceeding in good faith. Then once he gets the next shipment, they're on the verge of collapse. Rinse and repeat.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

trump's nixon phone call... He's even a cheap knockoff as a criminal traitor.