this post was submitted on 11 Jul 2024
2 points (100.0% liked)

Open Source

35627 readers
176 users here now

All about open source! Feel free to ask questions, and share news, and interesting stuff!

Useful Links

Rules

Related Communities

Community icon from opensource.org, but we are not affiliated with them.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

I am very new to linux and all the open source stuff (my first post on lemmy actually) so I don't get how this stuff works but flathub is saying that floorp is proprietary. But after a quick google search it says that floorp is open source licensed under MPL 2.0

top 6 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

It used to be open source, but large parts of it have been relicensed under their proprietary source-available shared source license. The reason why it isn't entirely proprietary is that it's based on Firefox, which is entirely licensed under the MPL. The weak copyleft of the MPL states that all parts lifted from Firefox must remain open source, but the new parts can be proprietary.

Source-available licenses are a type of proprietary license where the code is made public for people to look at, but you're not actually allowed to use it. Users can still contribute upstream, so they're usually parasitic licenses aimed at getting free labour out of the userbase without actually giving back any code to the commons, all while keeping up the illusion of being open source. It sucks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Huh! I didn't know about all these happenings around floorp's source code availability, but from what I can see now it should be back as fully open source under the MPL 2.0... am I wrong?

License on official GitHub

Reddit post about coming back fully open source

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

without actually giving back any code to the commons

Can you explain how this works?

Say a contributer downloads v1.1 of floorp, checks the code and makes a PR. Floop sees this and accepts the change and publishes v1.2. If a new contributer downloads floorp, they get v1.2 where they can see the previous merged PR.

How is it that they are not giving back? I can understand that not being on a repository makes it difficult but it's technically possible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

The contribution is automatically relicensed under that licence and as such, it remains property of the org that made floorp, so they're technically getting free labour, support and maintenance

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

The learn more button on the Floorp's Flathub links to a license agreement that literally states the following:

2.5. Floorp is not completely open-source same. Floorp's a part of codes are protected by copyright law and is not licensed under an open-source license. You may not use part of Floorp's code in your own projects without permission from the Licensor.

The file is 4 months old, so maybe something changed. Someone in the other comment linked a 1-month old Reddit post saying that Floorp is open-source again. But if that's the case, why haven't they updated the license agreement yet?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

A lot of outdated information. Looks like they've been open and closed source at different times. Most recent info I could find (from last month) states: "While Floorp wasn’t originally closed source, we plan to revert to an open-source license under the GNU definition."