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[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 48 points 1 year ago

References the rule a lot without elaborating on what it actually says. Most detailed part:

Indeed, the White House states in its fact sheet that the rule prevents the import or sale of connected vehicles “by entities who are owned by, controlled by, or subject to the jurisdiction or direction of the PRC or Russia – even if those vehicles were made in the United States.”

Really wish this rule would just prohibit "connected vehicles" from sending data without explicit opt-in. And inform users of exactly what happens with said data.

But alas, that's all pretext for what they really want, as usual.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 33 points 1 year ago

Just ban connected cars. Tell automakers to figure out how to sandbox CarPlay/android auto and run all other stuff on-device. Memory is cheap, if an insurance company wants to request driving data they can do so in a way that is visible to the driver.

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

the chinese cars have now been freed from the market

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Potentially also the US prepping for war with China.

Note: I'm paranoid as fuck.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We'd lose before we started. An unfortunate amount of tech, parts, packaging, food, medications, clothing and all sorts of other things come from China. If they closed that door due to war, China would snatch up Taiwan because there's nothing to lose at that point and the average person would get hosed in the US. Think Covid level shortages and even worse.

We're not going to war.

[–] Nightweb@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Good, only America should be able to data-rape Americans

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, yes? By definition that's less raping than America + more.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah, others should be required to purchase said data from american companies. Like they do now. Capitalism! USA! USA!

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Polestar?????? Isn't that Volvo's EV division?

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Nougat@fedia.io 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wouldn't this also ban Volvos then?

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Volvo only owns a minority stake of Polestar so Volvo is (at least on paper) much less "Chinese" than Polestar.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

~~Yes but still based in Gothenburg.~~ Edit: oops, I thought Polestar did not, but they have a Swedish HQ too.

I would personally consider Volvo a Chinese company now, but there's evidently some nuance here that I'm missing.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Dunno. I'm guessing they are banning on a more granular basis.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Volvo sold off their stake in Polestar last year

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

That was a dumb move IMO.

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Nobody can afford Polestar anyway