I hope it changes Rogue One because as it stands now, I already like it and I'm looking forward to see it again with a fresh gaze
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Might be different but it still won't be good.
Not a fan of Rogue One I take it?
No I found it to be a complete waste of time. Spend 2 hours watching a bunch of characters that the movie makes no effort to make us care about die, to reach a conclusion that we all knew was coming. It's very telling that they have to dangle Vader in front of the audience for some cheap thrills.
All Star Wars films are a complete waste of time. Tell me one that isn’t. Bonus points if you pick a prequel film I’d arguably respect that choice even if I rip apart from top to bottom.
Easy mode for you is Empire but I’ll still gladly tear it down.
Phantom Menace wasn't a waste of time, podracing is sick and it gave us the Duel of the Fates
Phantom Menace suuuuuucks
Well that's just like, your opinion, man
Maybe you just suck at empathizing?
Maybe you just need to watch better movies for comparison.
I hope it changes Rogue One because as it stands now, it's garbage.
I won't go so far as to say it's garbage, but it's by far the most overrated Star Wars movie or TV out there. It's a nice enough sci-fi war movie, if one with poor pacing, very thin characterizations, and a "main character" who just sort of gets carried along by events. Still, you throw a coat of Star Wars paint on top and add enough fan service to start a brothel, and suddenly it's all "DAE the best ever?!?!?!?"
I like the climactic space battle quite a bit, really.
The space battle was the best one in all of Star Wars IMO. The trench run is iconic but R1’s raised the stakes of ANH without feeling like a bullshit retcon while also finally showing how the “scrappy little rebellion” can’t just keep defying the odds all the time.
If you linger too long the massive resources of your literally galaxy-spanning enemy will eventually come to bear. If you watch you can progressively see the tide turning against them as they hang around for too long.
Also it was fun watching ships carry out their actual roles, like the Y-Wing bombing runs
Solo felt more like the original Star Wars movies than Rogue One to me. Rogue One felt like a generic pre-war/spy movie with sci-fi and a fictional setting than a star wars movie.
I mean technically the original Star Wars is just a generic heroes journey with sci-fi and a fiction setting.
Nothing about Star Wars is original if we want to get that reductionist about it. We could easily hand wave the original trilogy away as being carried by its effects.
It’s not particularly original, it’s never been narratively innovative, and it’s never been particularly well written on a dialogue standpoint. That’s not what carries them. It’s a sum of its parts/timing situation when you get down to it.
Yeah the fact that it took a serious tone for some reason makes people revere it... Even though it does basically nothing with that serious tone other than say "hey guys remember that Star Wars exists?"
I’d say its serious tone is more than that and is one of its few strengths tbh. It said “see what happens when scrappy heroes overstay their welcome?” It showed what actual guerrilla warfare against a superior force looks like.
If that's your bag and you haven't yet watched The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare yet, you should!
Never heard of this! Is it actually good or am I getting trolled lol
It's actually really good and the true story is even wilder than the movie:
Trailer:
Two books on it:
https://academic.macmillan.com/academictrade/9781250119032/churchillsministryofungentlemanlywarfare
Here's where it gets wild... The missions covered in the film, in real life, had zero casualties. Obviously Guy Ritchie/Jerry Bruckheimer wouldn't let that stand. :)
The other wild part... one of the British staff people involved in organizing all this was Ian Fleming.
Yes... THAT Ian Fleming!