lol those kids are fucked
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Yes and no. It really depends on the model.
The newest Claude Sonnet I'd probably guess will come in above average compared to the humans available for a program like this in making learning fun and personally digestible for each student.
The newest Gemini models could literally cost kids their lives.
The gap between what the public is aware of (and even what many employees at labs, including the frontier ones) and the reality of just how far things have come in the last year is wild.
"This ensures that each student is consistently challenged".
They will be challenged alright.
Why the fuck are we so accepting of everybody trying to replace real people with AI. The answer is money, obviously, but holy shit.
To be fair, white collar workers have become so lazy and incompetent, most of their jobs would be done better by AI.
Charlie Kaufman had some good words to say about AI in screenwriting. Most movies released today could be written by AI and nobody would be able to tell the difference.
I also think this sucks massively, yet the possibility of a well made curriculum focused on one Person dies sound enticing. So much less time wasted on stuff one child has no problems with vs another that's just stuck at some logical step. Ofc no social interaction is such a big - it almost can't be fixed.
Yeah, I want to hate it (and I do) but the idea is great. It's just that there's no way in hell the AI is doing the same job as a teacher. It'd also be very hard to tell if it's working correctly. Who's going to tell them it's not? The student?
I do think we need to modify our educational system to better suit people with different needs, but this should be through increased funding for more teachers, not AI to increase profits.
This seems like a great machine to create republican voters, purposefully undereducated and perpetually frightened - the school to joe rogan pipeline
Arizona State Board for Charter Schools
Imagine the AMAZING individuals that must make up this group.
In its Arizona application, Unbound says its bold claims about how much its students will learn are based on the experiment it’s running on students in Texas, inspired by Elon Musk.
The cancer that had metastasized to all systems
As students work through lessons on subjects like math, reading, and science, the AI system will analyze their responses, time spent on tasks, and even emotional cues to optimize the difficulty and presentation of content
This will be a nightmare for any neuro-divergent students, or really any student with atypical learning needs.
Atypical kids being left behind is a feature, not a bug. There's a shocking amount of parents even in the year of our Lord 2024 who think we're "too much" of a drain on schooling.
Theoretically, by analysing the exact needs, and being able to address them individually (in contrast to a teacher, who has limited time, and a whole class of students to attend to), it could do a better job. I mean the whole sales pitch of these systems is that they can attend to individual needs, and not just give you the material made for the average, "regular" student.
We'll see if it turns out that way. I have my doubts. It needs to have training data about neuro-divergent students, and knowledge how to handle them. And usually AI reproduces bias and stereotypes. Edge-cases are more rare in the training data, and that makes AI less knowledgeable. And that happens a lot. Plus current AI is very limited. I'm not sure if it's even smart enough to address individual needs. Or feed students with proper facts instead of fiction.
But I don't think analysing the students behaviour is the issue here. If at all, it's going to lead to improvements of those AI models, if they collect data about neuro-divergent people and feed them in.
Honestly the thing I'd be most worried about is that kids at that age are learning important social and language skills. Without an adult in the room to interact with, who are they going to learn that from?
Seriously. Teachers aren't just some machines spewing out lessons. They are meant to be a trusted adult in a kids life. Someone they can learn social norms from and someone they can go to if they need an adult they can trust that isn't their parents. I can foresee kids who go to this school having a much harder time getting away from abusive parents.
Yes, thank you. I feel like since the AI boom people have forgotten that the purpose of school isn't just to teach kids to regurgitate facts
I feel like it's even bigger than that. Since the AI boom it's become increasingly clear that our society has completely devalued humanity as a social concept. Companies acting like it's terrible to ever interact with another human. Schools acting like teaching is something to be automated. Dating apps trying to integrate AI to message people for you. Our society is going insane.
I'm sure an AI babysitter won't be immediately and utterly broken and bypassed by every single kid in these "classes".
(Seriously: we're talking about 8-12 year olds here and the absolutely are smart enough and incentivized to break the ever-loving crap out of this stupid idea.)
At that age I figured out that I could bypass the policy restrictions on my computer by unplugging the Ethernet cable right after login. Gave me full local admin.
A year or so prior to that I figured out that if you viewed IE's temporary internet files and just backspaced your way up, you can access the otherwise restricted C:, where I found other kids had already installed games onto.
No way this works for a full school year.
A year or so prior to that I figured out that if you viewed IE's temporary internet files and just backspaced your way up, you can access the otherwise restricted C:\
Public library Halo classic… good old days
Library software today can be wayyyyy better and lock down all the old tricks. Gotta count on the kids to keep cat ‘n’ mousing for their generation.
A few of my friends and myself ended up with the network admin password, so we had full administrative access to every computer. Ah, the good old days.
daaang, I completely forgot about when the Novell NetWare administrator forgot to purge the account management tool in the temp folder. I found it and was able to give myself network admin priv.
Problem is that yes they will probably do that and get away with it and a bunch of kids get to have a bunch of fun .... learn very little other than how to cheat and get by and they get a passing grade and go through school learning nothing.
So they will run for office in Arizona.
To be fair, the kids smart enough to cheat it would have, most likely, learned nothing in regular school as well
Believe it or not if a teacher is effective people actually want to learn.
It doesn't matter how smart you (think you) are if you're not educated. It's possible to educate yourself, but unlikely for the vast majority of people. If you were a smart slacker, you wouldn't be one of those teaching yourself "boring" topics, whether that's trigonometry or history. You could barely motivate yourself to open your mouth while being spoon fed.