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Justice should be equal (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

The law isn't about morality or social good or promoting the general order; it's about power and who wields it. The law is fundamentally a vehicle through which those who stand atop social hierarchies can command, exploit, and do violence to those less powerful. A CEO can kill tens of thousands of Americans every year with a pen and that isn't murder: a coal company can poison generations and that isn't murder: a police department can force homeless people to flee from place to place until they die from exposure and that isn't murder. The law exists to protect and promote the interests of the powerful, because that is what legal systems are designed to do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

The January 6th insurrection of 2020 was orchestrated and led by Donald Trump. Several nobodies have been charged and imprisoned over their miniscule contributions to the attack on our government. But the ringleader, the orchestrator, the figurehead behind it all faced no charges, no consequences, and was just reappointed to the highest office in the land. We don't need Luigi to see that there is no justice inherent in the system. Justice is blind (to the misdeeds of the wealthy).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

~~The Justice Department~~

The Just Us Department

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Source for anyone interested. I was initially confused since New York got rid of the death penalty decades ago, but it's from a new federal charge I hadn't seen yet.

As far as I can find they haven't officially said they're pursuing the death penalty for this charge just that this charge is eligible for it. I see no other reason for it though.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/dec/19/luigi-mangione-eligible-death-penalty-new-federal-/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Not to discredit the opinion, but don't most school shooters (if not all -I don't really pay attention) get killed on site and also have a personal grievance rather than just manipulation by media and statistics? Mangione seemed poised to become a serial killer. If he's free'd, it tells society it's ok to go around killing allegedly bad people (and ~20% of us are incredibly gullible conspiracy theorists -percent will be higher on certain sites on the internet as opposed to real life).

We also have to wonder how much more effective long term Mangione could have been alive and free.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Mangione seemed poised to become a serial killer.

That's pure speculation. And I hate to tell you this but people don't typically get sentence for "future crimes".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He killed a serial killer. And killing multiple serial killers is a societal good (as long as the state isn't the one doing the killing).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Denying people certain services does not equate to murder.

Should I kill a CEO for approving VIOXX which caused heart disease, intense abdominal pain, and GERD? -How about the doctor for prescribing it over an extremely minor issue? -Then there's the subsequent prescription ant-acids that can cause stomach cancer. -What about their responsibility when lemon water with cayenne worked as good or better?

When I tore rotator cuffs, I was denied surgery from the insurance company because they were only up to 40% tears. -I recovered for the most part and am glad I didn't get the risky surgery.

I was told I needed a hernia operatation (umbilical). Other people got it and ended up needing follow up surgery. Every surgery is a risk of your life.

So without knowing specifics (I have yet to see any among all this nonsense), I'm not supporting blatant killing which is what Mangione did. -Or show me how the CEO was directly responsible without resorting to propaganda (which statistics typically are).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's because the elite got afraid and they need to set an example now so that the masses don't get stupit ideas.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People keep parroting this statement. I'm so confused because it does not hold up to any scrutiny.

If you think for 5 seconds, school shooters aren't charged with the death penalty because they overwhelmingly kill themselves or die during the shooting. They are also usually children, which might get them more lenient sentences.

This type of surface level logic just makes the supporting side look bad. There are far better comparisons to draw from