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[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

When I was like 7, I put a bunch of legos in one of these and they melted. I was able to put them into the top because the lamp was next to the stairs.

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

What I remember most about them is that they were extremely effective as unintentional bug zappers. The SMELL of instantly vaporized burnt moths in the room is something I'll likely never forget.

[–] Cooljimy84@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They also put out a huge amount of heat ! Quite useful in old high rise flats !

[–] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Good for heating the ceiling anyway

Knock them over and put the heat where it belongs

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

These would be much easier to do with LEDs but somehow they didn't survive the transition.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Who’s wants upward directional lighting at ceiling height? They were a horrendous design that only lit the room up, not great for reading or crafting.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People who want the entire room lit up with fairly soft lighting?

Also https://youtu.be/mMDuDCXtxos

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

It only lights the ceiling up, you still need additional lighting for anything you want to do. And halogens are not soft lighting either.

Those were designed so the heat wouldn’t get trapped in the lid and the are super bright, so you couldn’t point them down. Replacing it with LED you wouldn’t need the same design considerations, and just replacing it with a led bulb won’t make it work the same.

These were just a shit light altogether, it’s why it didn’t “survive” the change to led. The efficiency is also worse because of their design.

Most upward lighting comes from the floor or lower down the wall, so it actually floods the room. Theres a point to upward lighting, but not at ceiling height and sending it more up.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

It only lights the ceiling up, you still need additional lighting for anything you want to do. And halogens are not soft lighting either.

I see you're in full body-contact mode with others on this discussion, and I don't mean the pile on, but I honestly wanted to ask you a follow-up question to your statement that I quoted.

What you stated is not my experience. My house has light color painted ceilings, with no popcorn, so when the light goes up it bounces off the ceiling and gives a warm glow to the whole area.

I don't see it as wasting energy, just diffusing the light in all directions, without having to have an explicit device in between the light and you to do the diffusing (like what they have in the film industry).

And I say this regardless if it was using halogen bulbs or LEDs. With halogens since the light diffuses it does affect a somewhat soft glow to the whole room. Personally I like LEDs better where you can change the warmth level of the light that it emits, but still, the act of the photons bouncing off of light color ceiling and diffusing does give that warmish glow.

I understand if you don't want to respond, as you spent a lot of time in this conversation already, but I honestly would like to hear your opinions about my thoughts that I just elaborated on.

Check out the guy with black ceilings.

[–] pfannkuchen_gesicht@lemmy.one 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's soft light after bouncing off the ceiling.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Which is inefficient and terrible design, that’s why it didn’t survive to the new technology.

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sure, it’s inefficient. But it’s more cozy. Also, those lights are usually dimmable, giving the halogen lights an even warmer colour temperature. Together with the indirect light, they were great for bedrooms or living rooms, when you don’t want or don’t need harsh ceiling light. Of course, no one would use them, when they’re trying to work on something or read or something like that. Home lighting isn’t always about the most efficient way to light a room.

I for example still prefer indirect light in my living room, most of the time. Sure, it’s LED by now, but it’s still way nicer to let the light bounce off the wall while I’m just chilling. And if I actually need more light, the ceiling lamp still exists…

Or how would you propose to create a cozy, soft and comfortable lighting atmosphere?

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Or how would you propose to create a cozy, soft and comfortable lighting atmosphere?

Proper installed lighting? Like codes require in most places? There’s even lux requirements for decades in code. It’s just modern bulbs don’t meet the requirements that old receptacles used, so now people come up with excuses to use portable lighting instead of proper installed lighting.

Maybe time for a reno to use your modern devices correctly.

I will say, that some places do have a severe lack of code implementation and/or enforcement, so maybe this partly the issue. Non code compliant lighting to begin with.

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Here in Germany in most houses and apartments, rooms come with wiring for one, rarely two ceiling lamps. That’s it. If you’re fancy, there’s maybe wiring for one or two wall mounted lamps, if it’s a particularly big room. In the average room, if your lighting is properly installed you have one sufficiently bright ceiling lamp (one lamp, not necessarily just one bulb) to illuminate the room to a good brightness level. It’s not cozy but it’s bright.

Now tell me, what should I do, to make it more cozy, that doesn’t involve laying new wiring into a concrete wall?

Also, when has code compliant lighting ever been designed to be cozy? The regulations for primary lighting here in Germany are designed to provide sufficiently bright and pleasant light, illuminating the whole room. That’s it. There aren’t even any real codes for home lighting, only for work spaces, which do not need to be cozy but safe and comfortable.

For home lighting there only exist unofficial recommendations, which, btw, usually include a recommendations for floor lamps and indirect lighting in living- and bedrooms.

[–] Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Girl I was dating in the mid 2000’s was sleeping with one of these lamps in her dorm room. One of those desks on the floor and bed up top bunkbed setups and her pillow fell onto the bulb needless to say the pillow got really nicely burnt. Luckly it didn’t catch fire

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Strangely enough last night my home didn't burn down either.