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The economy’s strength and stability — defying many of the most optimistic predictions — represents a remarkable development after seemingly endless crises

As 2023 winds to a close, Powell and his colleagues are far from declaring victory on inflation. They routinely caution that their actions could be thwarted by any number of threats, from war in the Middle East to China’s economic slowdown. Americans are upset about high costs for rent, groceries and other basics, which aren’t going back to pre-pandemic levels. The White House, too, is quick to emphasize that much work remains.

Yet the economy is ending the year in a remarkably better position than almost anyone on Wall Street or in mainstream economics predicted, having bested just about all expectations time and again. Inflation has dropped to 3.1 percent, from a peak of 9.1. The unemployment rate is at a hot 3.7 percent, and the economy grew at a healthy clip in the most recent quarter. The Fed is probably finished hiking interest rates and is eyeing cuts next year. Financial markets are at or near all-time highs, and the S&P 500 could hit a new record this week, too.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So the inflated price should come down right? …right…

Damn when a pound of onions cost $2.50 I don’t really call this progress or “Finding a way out”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ending inflation doesn't mean that prices come down. It means that they stop rising. (or, more realistically, go back to rising at 2% to 3% per year)

Deflation is when prices drop. It's bad; what happens is that it's more valuable to hold onto cash than to invest it in starting or expanding a business, so the economy as a whole craters like the US did in the Great Depression. You probably don't want that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yo ngl I cannot care one iota about the S&P 500 when food costs nearly double what it did before the pandemic and rents are skyrocketing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel you, but there's not much Biden can do about either thing.

Unfortunately, he will get the blame for it anyway.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel you, but there’s not much Biden can do about either thing

Weird the article is giving credit to Biden for inflation then...

It's just getting old that if something good happens, Biden gets credit. If something doesn't get fixed, then it's not his fault because he's just the president.

It's the type of stuff I'm used to only hearing from Republicans.

I mean. At the absolute bare minimum the White House should understand how this comes off to voters like the person your replying to.

All it does is highlight how voters aren't the concern, it's the wealthy who have already made huge increases in the wealth since 2019.

"Nothing will fundamentally change" he told the wealthy before he was elected. And credit where credit is due, Biden has kept that promise to them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Within any adminstration there will be things in and outside of their sphere of influence.

What's often attributed to Biden himself can often more accurately be attributed to his cabinet as a whole.

When people say it's not their fault they often mean the issue at hand needs a Senate resolution which will never happen because it's controlled by the Republican party who has a "do you enemy no favors" policy whenever a democrat is in office.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So what did Biden do for this?

The article says:

  1. Skyrocketing interest rates.

  2. Increased fossil fuels drilling

  3. And forcing ports to operate 24/7 to flood the market with imported consumer goods.

All things that have massive negative effects on the average American, but help large corporations and the wealthy who own them.

Which brings us back full circle to OP's complaint that this victory lap is celebrating something that only benefits the most wealthy Americans and fucks over the rest of us.

Is that what we're supposed to be congratulating Biden on?

Is this honestly going to convince voters that Biden cares about them? Because according to polls, they don't feel like that, and that will depress turnout which is the only way Republicans can become president.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So...

You're saying the article lists three more things that helped the wealthy.

And one of your examples for how that helps the average American is it kept housing prices high?

And you know what avoids layoffs and actually helps workers? Fixing the actual problem which is out of control wealth inequality.

Even just trying to do something about that would pretty much guarantee Biden gets a second term.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good talk, chad.

It's depressing how much trump supporters and Biden support act alike.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That falls on your local economy and state and local elected officials. Rent is always due to local officials and how the zone the city. Local and State Corporate taxes also play a role in higher prices. If I were you, I'd check the local city council schedule and speak on those concerns.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 4 months ago)