This is beyond fucked up...I cant stand what we do to animals.
this post was submitted on 14 Sep 2026
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Another post comes out highlighting yet one more of the enumerable ways we humans absolutely ruin the lives of other animals. Like clockwork, the few people who actually take the simple, reasonable steps to approach a better way of life get dogpiled by all the others who have their bag of holding ready with every stale excuse and outright lies about veganism to continue the status quo.
We are in a thread about one form of cruelty towards chickens - only one small part of an entire supply chain of fucked up that is going on right now more than ever - which would probably lead to a whole multiple weeks of news and outrage and lawsuits if it was done to humans.
And you decided that your goal was going to be to come in here and automatically decenter the conversation away from the animals because you wanted to argue with vegans?
Listen, whatever your self identity is, if you are doing what you can to stop supporting these things, that's awesome I'm proud of you. I do not care about identity politics, especially when it gets into the No True Scottsman obnoxiousness. If you are doing what you can, with what you have, that is good enough for now. And I hope you're able to feel inspired to push things further.
But if your whole thing is to just come into these posts to argue with vegans, first of all, get a real job. Second, look, I don't care to frame things around whether someone is good or bad. We all just do things, and there are consequences for those things for better or worse. This isn't about vegans, this is about literally every species of animal on the planet, both including and excluding us.
Every time we pay for an animal product, we are complicit in all the things being done to both humans and other animals to get that product. That is the cold hard reality. That is never going to go away unless we all collectively change.
Ok a surface-level duckduckgo of "Li et al 2026" only gives me twitter that's related (which's also an unlinked image)
I seen similar claims that DO actually have sources before, so I know this type of stuff happens in the meat industry, but still please link the sources.
I wasn't able to find the article on Google Scholar or Kagi either. Given that "Li" is the second most common surname in the world, it would be nice to have a bit more for a reference.
Not letting people sleep 8 hours naturally does the same thing.
Is animal torture funny to you?
Pretty sure that one is already dead.
Before capitalism, people used to only kill as many animals as were necessary to feed them, all while ensuring they don't suffer needlessly and respecting their natural habitats.
Under capitalism, animals are just resources to be extracted and turned into products and profits. The conditions of this extraction may vary slightly, but ultimately this is never going to change under a system that fundamentally removes humans from nature, as well as focuses on accumulation of capital above all else.
Before capitalism, people used to only kill as many animals as were necessary to feed them
Are you serious? Abusing animals for sport and gambling was widespread, across many cultures, millennia before modern capitalism.
The Wikipedia article on bloodsport lists plenty of examples of human on animal or animal on animal violence to the death.
And that's to say nothing of the use of non-consenting human slaves for blood sport.
There's something to be said for the cruelty of industrialized slaughter, but let's not pretend that human cruelty to animals isn't part of our nature that predates capitalism.
Foie gras was developed like half a millenia ago... humans have always had the capacity for and willingness to be cruel for our own individual betterment. There was never any "before" time that we can go back to where there werent shitty people doing shitty things. We have been exploiting and exterminating animals for centuries and centuries, we just have the best tools to do it, that weve ever had now.
Half a millennia ago was about the same time as early-modern capitalism was developed... It's just a coincidence I'm sure, but still thought it was funny to point out. That being said, I agree with you that there wasn't a time "before people were shitty", but I must point out that we've developed tech to such a level that we're actively destroying our own environment. Also, OP is correct when they said that we actively shifted from killing what was needed and saving the rest for later, to our current profit-driven method of breeding and butchering as many animals as physically possible just for the sake of selling more and keeping the machines running efficiently.
I'd be willing to forgive all of that if we were somehow able to eliminate hunger through these production methods (something well within our capability to accomplish), but having worked in the food service industry for over a decade, being told to throw away pounds and pounds and pounds of perfectly good food every day, watching coworkers get punished for even ASKING if they could take any of it home, and constantly given some bullshit reasoning of "oh we wouldn't want to be sued if someone claims they ate our food and got sick" as the sole justification to why it was immediately trashed, I'm honestly just sick of all the bullshit. The fact that we have a hyper-efficient food industrial complex that produces more than we know what to do with AND a nation-wide food-affordability problem that seems to exclusively effect the most vulnerable, should not be two facts that coexist
I did work in warehouse of a company that sells perishables on amazon. There were times in summer when half the inventory would get molds or maggots.
It was apparently still cheaper than keeping everything refrigerated tho because the company simply bought twice as much food needed and simply let them go to waste.
There was still some time where pre-industrial husbandry including breeding of animals was a thing and capitalism didn't exist in the form we criticise it now.
Capitalism wasn't the cause of animal cruelty, no. You're spot-on there. But OP is correct that there was a shift between 'killing what was needed/could be stored', to what we currently have which is 'get as many animals through the process as quickly as possible for the sake of profit'. And now we have a problem of having so much food available for businesses and not enough available for individuals (or at least not for a comparable cost). Having worked in the food service industry for over a decade, being told to throw away pounds and pounds and pounds of perfectly good food every day, watching coworkers get punished for even ASKING if they could take any of it home, and constantly given some half-assed reasoning of "oh we wouldn't want to be sued if someone claims they ate our food and got sick" (even though that would be the simplest court case possible, almost an automatic win for the business if it even got to that point) as the sole justification to why it was immediately trashed, I'm honestly just sick of all the bullshit.
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