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[–] XCraftMC@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

all of these cliché relationships where people don't seem to understand basic forms of communication just confuse me. if you feel this way, tell them! If you don't like something their doing, say something! this isnt highschool; it's not a guessing game anymore, it's people.

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm really glad I was able to develop good communication skills in my life of work. When I just started out I made some pretty bad communication errors and I got to see the effects of the errors and learn from my mistakes.

Pretty much learned from the start to just never assume anything. If it's important, say it even if you think the other party knows it already. Because at "worst" you just said something obvious but at best you realize there is a communication gap ASAP.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's always high school. Always has been, always will be. After generations of learning how to interact with each other in romantic contexts from media, what do you expect? Especially when we spend our formative years watching media that's written to appeal to people in their formative years, you end up with a lot of people acting like poorly written characters because that's how they learned to interact with each other.

Not to say that our generation is worse than previous generations, of course. Back then dudes didn't know how to not hit their wives. Now we just don't know how to talk. A marked improvement, I'd say

[–] poplargrove@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ah yes, "wife bad", a staple of boomer humor.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's a response in kind to a equally dumb comment.

The original comment is massively generalist so the response is equally generalist.

[–] LavaPlanet@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I don't know, I read the original meaning, believe they're capable, in rebuke to the stereotype men just *can't do anything, so don't even try, like they're incapable toddlers, or something. To me it was a cheeky way of taking a shot at that thinking, that men aren't capable.

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

This was more "guys bad. Nuh, uh, girls bad." Everyone getting dunked on in this one.

Maybe it was the communication issues we gained along the way.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Love is...

...to be communicated via MW2 lobby lingo.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

everyone going on about how gamers can't communicate for shit, meanwhile deep rock galactic players INSTANTLY agree that the compressed gold must be pinged unceasingly until management shouts at you, with no verbal communication whatsoever.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] JayJay@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Yes yes, we're rich we're rich. Now get back to work.

[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

In houndreds or public matches I've played in CS over the years, maybe like 10 had teammates who all actually used callouts

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I used to solo-queue almost exclusively. Almost always every teammate communicated. This was like 5+ years ago though, so maybe things have changed. I also frequently initiated the communication and kept things going and didn't get mad at people, so that all helps too. From my experience, be nice and communicate and general the same will be returned, but against this was a while ago.

(I'm assuming CS is Counter Strike, and not like competitive multiplayer Cities Skylines or something.)

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

(I'm assuming CS is Counter Strike, and not like competitive multiplayer Cities Skylines or something.)

"Natural disaster, meteor from northwest, prepare fire fighters!"

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I could never figure out the built in callouts... Anytime I played with the bots in CS:GO, they would always do callouts and I'm pretty sure they're just baked in, but I have no idea where, or how to use them.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Those are displayed on your minimap. Some of them are used by players, and players will know what you mean anyway, but most position calls by players are different from those. They're also frequently regional, so there can be many calls for a single position. They're pretty much always one or two syllables, and usually there's a few similar ones that appear on many maps. Cat, for example, is any catwalk (the most important one on the map if there are multiple). Heaven/Hell is any raised or lowered area respectively, usually with Hell just below Heaven.

You just have to listen to people and ask if you don't know them, maybe also watch some professional matches as the casters also usually use the most common calls for that language.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Thanks for the insight. I appreciate it.

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've been exclusively queueing Office since CS2 dropped and most people know the call outs. Idk what it is about that particular map. (Dust2 is okay too)

[–] fiddlesticks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Anyone you meet on office has likely never played a different map and therefore knows everything about it.

Source: am office player

[–] Reddit_Is_Trash@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

Office has an entire community that mains just that one map

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As someone who has played ranked FPS' since... they existed (sigh), and the number of times I had a male teammate throw a tantrum and then refuse to make callouts is... Probably in the hundreds. From QTF to CS to TF2 to Apex...

During a CAL-im match, Dan? Really, Dan?

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

QTF

we got a fossil over here

(I'm too young to have played Quake when multiplayer was a thing ;-; but I do speedrun it)

[–] ChronosWing@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Quake Multi-player is still alive with the remasters that were released recently.

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've tried it and I had a lot of fun with it at release, but the queue times for matchmaking got unreal (pun intended) pretty quick. I mainly play Half-Life and Quake Live now but it's not quite the same

(but HL1's multiplayer is the bomb tbh, just a lot of servers are dead)

[–] ChronosWing@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

Yep, I have very fond memories of HL1 multiplayer, also there were SO many HL1 mods that were just incredibly fun.

[–] CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I have fond memories of playing Doom via a null modem cable

[–] quinkin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, even with friends. Everyone in my discord has had a good sook at the others. "I thought you were with me!" proceed to scatter like cats yet again with everyone 'leading'

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Everyone is the leader, and zero people are following. Gg everyone.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Bullshit.

All gamers ever say is shit like "it's over here!!", or "I'm here, dude!! Right over HERE."

I'll tell you, once we all find out where "here" is, the gamers will have nothing left to stop them from world domination.

Alas, the search continues...

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Also people can definitely be passive aggressive playing competitive games.

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

You're playing with silvers

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

You've never heard Goonswarm Comms. Utter chaos until someone utters the word "Check." Then we all turn into pilots with complete comms silence except the guy calling for help and the fleet commander that gets to jump in to save the dummy.

[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is such a classic communication problem. I’d like to hear how to overcome it.

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Both sides have to talk and just as importantly, be willing to listen. Otherwise you're just spinning your wheels and getting nowhere.

[–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’ve been with my wife for 18 years, and this is 100% correct. Disagreements are always going to happen, you just have to talk your way through them and be willing to admit when you’re wrong.

[–] Raistwalker@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

Agree 100%. My wife and I had pretty good communication but issues still came up occasionally. A few years in we made the conscious decision to treat arguments that came up as miscommunications first and make sure we each clearly understood each other before doubling down on it. It was a total game changer and was eye opening how often we might have the unrealistic expectation of wanting the other person to read our mind.