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[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I feel like this is incomplete because the pigments could change the long wave emissivity of the shirts and affect the ir measurement.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 day ago

Also doesn't take into account which shirt color is best for dissipating body heat (it's black)

[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

They see me mowin'

My front lawn

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I know they're all thinking I'm so

and nerdy

[–] kn33@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's crazy how much hotter the "almost white" is compared to the actual white

[–] brastak@feddit.org 38 points 3 days ago

There is no scale, maybe it's just 0.1 degree

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

yes, but because I'm fat, the loose clothing provides updrafts as my sweat evaporates...

is what I tell my metalhead/goth fat ass.

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The study is a little old, but this is why Bedouins wear loose black clothing in the desert.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago

That is pretty cool. We should have seen a robe trend on golf courses around 2012. It's too bad we didn't, it would have been funny.

The results were clear. As the report puts it: "The amount of heat gained by a Bedouin exposed to the hot desert is the same whether he wears a black or a white robe. The additional heat absorbed by the black robe was lost before it reached the skin."

Bedouins' robes, the scientists noted, are worn loose. Inside, the cooling happens by convection – either through a bellows action, as the robes flow in the wind, or by a chimney sort of effect, as air rises between robe and skin. Thus it was conclusively demonstrated that, at least for Bedouin robes, black is as cool as any other colour.

[–] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago

Interesting 🤔

P.S. I like how my dumbass just kept reading and got confused why Bedouins eat bones.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
[–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Black still isn't a bonus in that case

[–] mrmisses@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

"Black, it's cooler than green" ~marketing

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They need to add heater packs underneath and thermocouple readings. While white is good at rejecting external thermal radiation, it is also poor at emitting thermal radiation. A white surface can be hard to keep cool if the heat comes from within. In particular, white will look like it has a much better comparitive advantage when imaged in IR than is likely to be the case in real usage conditions.

Yellow, red, and gray may be more comfortable in practice.

[–] swicano@programming.dev 6 points 3 days ago

But most heat we reject isn't rejected radiatively, so you need a sweaty heater pack for a better test. You're right that the clothes will also affect how well the person underneath removes heat, a confounding variable, but pigment alone might be a small part compared to weave and fiber choices

[–] jaygray91@piefed.zip 8 points 3 days ago

red is doing pretty well, and I'm surprised with the other colors

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not convinced about the "black makes you look slimmer" part.

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 0 points 3 days ago

Black does make you look tougher though, dark colours do subconsciously.

Tone also plays a factor. Light green vs a dark green. So it’s not just the color itself.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

Lol, yesterday was (hopefully) the last t-shirt day this year.

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 3 points 3 days ago

What this neglects to show is the amount of time different colors retain that heat.

It's not just the absorption, I heard black dissapates heat faster than other colors for instance. And how much you feel that heat has the most to do with how loose your clothing is.

[–] CalypsoGirl@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wish I had seen this at the beginning of Summer and the foreknowledge of what I would see walking around southern California all summer. I would print this out and hand it to every idiot I see wearing black on scorching sunny days. A majority of people walking around wearing black all summer! What is going on? Black is apparently in style lately because the world is falling apart & everyone is miserable

but are people this uneducated? White reflects light & keeps internal temperatures down! Black does the exact opposite! 🤦🏼‍♀️

[–] Spaniard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Bedouins wear black robes, the guardian did some tests and they found out the amount of heat the wearer is exposed too is the same with black and white robes.

Taylor, Finch, Shkolnik, and Borut measured the overall heat gain and loss suffered by a brave volunteer. They described the volunteer as "a man standing facing the sun in the desert at midday while he wore: 1) a black Bedouin robe; 2) a similar robe that was white; 3) a tan army uniform; and 4) shorts (that is, he was semi‑nude)".

Each of the test sessions (black-robed, white-robed, uniformed and half-naked) lasted 30 minutes. They took place in the Negev desert at the bottom of the rift valley between the Dead Sea and the Gulf of Eilat. The volunteer stood in temperatures that ranged from a just-semi-sultry 35C (95F) to a character-building 46C (115F). Though he is now nameless, this was his day in the sun.

The results were clear. As the report puts it: "The amount of heat gained by a Bedouin exposed to the hot desert is the same whether he wears a black or a white robe. The additional heat absorbed by the black robe was lost before it reached the skin."

Bedouins' robes, the scientists noted, are worn loose. Inside, the cooling happens by convection – either through a bellows action, as the robes flow in the wind, or by a chimney sort of effect, as air rises between robe and skin. Thus it was conclusively demonstrated that, at least for Bedouin robes, black is as cool as any other colour.

Source

Depending on of the fabric and how tight it is to the body black can keep you as cool.

[–] CalypsoGirl@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

This study paid for by The Bad Guys ™️

But seriously

The additional heat absorbed by the black robe was lost before it reached the skin."

Thick multi-layer robes.

A different effect than single-layer black t-shirts & casual apparel that westerners wear. Returning our focus to OP's diagram.

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Neat spectoscopy experiment. Notice how yellow is not receiving the heat? It’s because the atmosphere is refracting/absorbing it because “yellow sun.”

The one perk of black is the sweat might get evaporated by the shirts light collection.

[–] thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

Grey all day

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] B0rax@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

He is shopping for shirts.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 0 points 2 days ago

The problem with white and yellow is that they tend to attract bees, and without a flamethrower I'm completely defenseless against them.