Musk's pattern:
- Overpromise
- Reap investment dollars
- Talk big talk
- Before being called on to deliver, move on to the next thing to overpromise
- Underdeliver, or just completely fail to deliver
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Musk's pattern:
This was a scam from day one. The tiles Musk presented to media were made by an LA prop factory.
Good stuff, I hope they keep killing products and slowly disappear into the horizon.
Tesla offloaded the hardest, least profitable part of the Solar Roof — the physical install and the customer relationship — onto small local companies, let them absorb the training and tooling costs, and then pulled the product out from under them. Tesla keeps a manageable warranty liability on 3,000 roofs. The installers keep the stranded investment, the abandoned pipelines, and the awkward job of servicing a discontinued product for the next two decades.
And now all these goons will turn around and buy fleets of his scamtaxis and own all the risk, depreciation and liability when they start to mow down families
How are you Americans still giving him money? 😂🤣
I'm not directly giving him shit. But I'm sure the people that manage the mutual funds that I own are eating his shit up.
Funny that you think it's only Americans.
Gotta distract from the growing far-right in Germany somehow.
What? What the hell does that even have to do with this conversation.
Agreeing with you. Pointing out that it's not "only Americans" supporting (and voting for) these shitheads. Focusing on one country is a mistake when the hyper-wealthy exist and influence internationally. Frustrated with how so much anger is misplaced at American citizens by others. There's a lot of context I didn't think needed to be explained.
Lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas.
If your story starts with "I believed in Musk's vision" or "I voted for Trump" or some other asinine bullshit that everyone with a brain stem was telling you was stupid 10 years ago, you can take your sympathy fishing with you all the way to bankruptcy court.
I hope your kids watch and internalize what a loser their parent is.
I believed in Musk's vision
The idea has it's pros and that's why there's a market. Autarq, paXos, SolteQ und Nelskamp are the competition.
Sadly, in our case (scenic protected village core) they count still as solar, which isn't allowed. They would make the most sense there. Our administration should get an update.
And even if they all have gone bust at the end of their lifetime (~30 years), you'll still have a roof.
The IDEA is great. The man who sold it to them is a known con-artist and liar and they had no shortage of warning before they got in bed with him.
Does Vegas still have that stupid fucking tunnel that could have just been a train?
they expanded it. of course they did.
But unlike a train tunnel, it has no safety measures so when the first car blows up it will be a huge rocket stove.
Citynerd recently did another video after he did one about a year ago, and it seems it's still running.
I hope it burns down.
Musk claimed that Tesla's solar roof would be competitive with conventional roofing tiles when factoring in the value of the electricity generated and said the roof could potentially cost less than traditional roofing materials, especially high-end options like slate or clay tiles.
Musk lies about everything and even tells us not to believe our eyes. Never forget he's an actual Nazi:

We won't even discuss the fundamental stupidity of putting tiles in the shade, or having a roof system exposed to the elements with hundreds of electrical plugs.
Would be smarter to have non solar tiles in the same style to put in the parts of the roof that are not viable for energy production but I'm not Elon Musk leve genius
Every time I see this clip and remember the original he's trying to copy, I can't help but guffaw at how pathetic an imitation it is. Don't mistake this for endorsement, by any means, but the original had composure, posture, military , projected control and determination, all the ingredients for the image of strength he wanted to project.
Musk? He has an edgy tryhard teenager's imitation, biting his lip like he's trying to look super focused, moving as if he's trying to put feeling into it or whatever. It's like the uncanny valley of parody: We know it's not parody, but it's also not really the original.
It's like "How do you do, fellow ~~kids~~ Nazis" except Buscemi doesn't deserve being used as analogy for that. Nobody does, really.
God, Musk is such a loser and it's a mystery how he got as influential among young people as he did.
i blame simcity 3000. it made me eco, and he was the only eco guy with a platform targeting teenagers in 2005
God, Musk is such a loser and it's a mystery how he got as influential among young people as he did.
"My heart goes out to" those dumb enough to do business with him. Cut from the same cloth as Trumpy
Intelligent people do not buy/trust/invest in Musk or Musk products anymore. Not an opinion.
We had a solar company try to sell us on Tesla panels and we noped out because we didn't have confidence in the company (this was before the Nazi stuff was more apparent). Glad we decided to forego that! (For many reasons, but this definitely solidifies it)
The roof tiles was my last Tesla livestream event. Once he was done bragging about how he would fix a nonexistent problem, my suspicions he is a conman were confirmed.
He’s literally a manchild throwing money at things and seeing which grows, just to gain more power and influence so he can one day rule the world like a cartoon villain. He’s mindblowingly simple to read.
about how he would fix a nonexistent problem
Nazi-Musk aside, Its not exactly a non-existent problem. Its just a very very small niche problem that doesn't justify the tremendous resources poured into creating it. Its also an old problem that doesn't exist much anymore.
There was a time when solar panels were pretty ugly and expensive. Those two things would deter a certain number of people from installing panels. So the idea of cheap solar panels that matched the traditional look some buyers wanted did exist. Heavy emphasis on some buyers because it was a pretty small pool to begin with. What really made solar shingles largely irrelevant was the dramatic drop in cost of regular panels, the drastic increase in performance of regular panels, and the noticeably improved aesthetics of all-black regular panels. So the prior tiny market for solar shingles shrank even more, and the costs of Tesla solar shingles continued to rise without any performance improvements. It was a tiny market before and its a nearly non-existent market now. Solar shingles are bad business.
Lastly, social attitudes changed and having solar panels on a roof switched largely from being seen as an eyesore to a point of pride for many. This last point isn't totally solved yet. My own housing community doesn't allow panels on the side of the house that faces the road...except in some circumstances (making the rule even more stupid).
I'm looking forward to the day when I can slap some panels on the other side of the house for even greater solar generation! I'm still have no interest in solar shingles though.
a musk company doing something scummy?
Tesla offloaded the hardest, least profitable part of the Solar Roof
Starting to see a pattern here...
Sounds like the whole thing was just a way for them to extract training costs from roofers.