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They punch left to protect and defend the right (lemmy.world)
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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I'm sick of all these fascist plants pretending to be progressive while trying to convince us it's not worth bothering to vote Dem in the upcoming elections because they're all the same. They aren't, and you know they aren't you fucking Nazi.

The progressive movement is having its best year ever in the Democratic primaries and can continue to do so. We need to change the party, yes. But that's secondary to removing power from Trump.

Biden, Obama, and Clinton weren't true leftists. But they sure as shit weren't the dumpster fire we have now and we HAVE to neuter these fuckers in November.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm almost 100% positive at this point that Hakeem Jeffries is one such GOP plant (among others, he just stands out the most to me). He goes against everything the Democratic party cares about.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I'm actually talking about the trolls making these posts.

[–] kurwa@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Are you dumb? Have you not seen all the Dems going after progressive Dems who won their primaries and are saying to vote for the fuckin Republican instead?? Liberals are the worst kind of people who will actively vote against their wishes because scawyyy sowcialism.

[–] urthoughtsrbad@lemmy.zip 0 points 10 hours ago

They get together with their friends from across the aisle and count votes to ensure everyone has a chance to stay in power together. Every single time, 5-6 random democrats vote with their best buddies from across the aisle.

And then people like you come online and carry their water.

Just maybe stop posting if you want to defend the “good guy” in their little good cop bad cop ruse.

Thanks.

[–] NuanceDemon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

They weren't leftists, or anything close, but rewarding them for being 'at least you arent trump' sends them a message that they don't really have to try.

On the flip side, Trump has caused a ton of pain, and I think anyone who was trying to punish the dems for being shit is regretting it at this point, but I do see a bit of a light at the end of the tunnel here.

Nobody who's thought on it even briefly thinks unfettered capitalism is good anymore lmao.

[–] ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Look, if we really believe that the Dems aren't the answer then the only choice we have left is mob violence, and a full blown governmental reset with a new Constitution. Personally I'm for that, however, I would like to give The Democratic Party enough rope to make it clear that is what needs to happen, or enough rope to actually get us out of this mess and on the path of recovery.

But yeah, if you're not willing to use your small piece of violence allotted to you by the system, then I assume you're mad enough to actually get bloody. And if you're not either one of those, then your opinion doesn't really have any weight, and you're exactly what they accuse you of.

[–] NuanceDemon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Thats a bit of a pivot from the topic, im talking about pressuring the dems to change, not taking to the street. Adapt or fail.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Not rewarding them means we give up our right to vote after which we won't be able to remove the right without bullets because we won't have fair elections anymore. It's estimated that dismantling USAID alone will cause 14M preventable deaths by 2030 many of them children.

I guess the question is why are you willing to kill millions of children and crash our entire country in order to make a point we'll only appreciate after we are watching them drag people to the death camps they are already building.

[–] NuanceDemon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The response would be, to save millions more from a future even worse dystopia that potentially lasts indefinitely.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

There is no reason to believe that the democrats will enact such a dystopia or try to keep you from voting for someone else next round whereas the other side is literally already planning on stealing both upcoming elections and tweeting about it.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz -2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

you fucking Nazi.

Welp, thanks for that. Clearly you love your team so much that anyone who does not hold your opinions is a "nazi", there can be nothing but vote for your team after all.

You have no idea how absolutely insane you americans sound. This mess is on all of you, and honestly I would rather the us just collapse at this point. You have no ability or will to fix your party of choice let alone your nation. But please prove me wrong, do anything at this point. Vote blue sure at the very minimum, but please understand that you have an administration currently that does everything by decree and ignores your laws and traditions making your vote mean less and less as days pass.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Have the Dems fucked up a lot? Yes. But short of an actual Civil War, the only way to curb this madness is to vote Dem in November and flip the legislature. The GOP's fascism was hypercharged by targeting the Republican primaries. We can do the same the other direction on the left, and we've had recent success doing just that. And that terrifies the Nazis more than anything.

So they go to our online communities, pretend to be one of us, and try to convince people that the Dems who have failed to stop the GOP are the real problem. The fascists are very active here and elsewhere trying to convince leftists not to vote for the one party that can actually stop the GOP. They say that the Dems are no different than the GOP and try to get the left to split the vote in a manner that will ensure Trump and company win.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz -1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

But short of an actual Civil War,

Right there you are actively doing what you are accusing others of.

It is not the only way, your american madness is not normal. You claim all online spaces as your own american democrat places, they are not. The world is not putting up with your wild team based bullshit anymore. Fix your shit, its not on the rest of the world to "fall in line" with your views or stop talking or thinking while you do it (or fail to).

We can do the same the other direction on the left....

The very fact that this statement does not terrify you people is wild, you are all so far up your own team based sauce that you can not see that by making "your team = good, their team = evil" is how you are in this mess. You are living in the honest by any measure end of your nation and are upset anyone thinks that the very system that delivered you to this point is not up to the task is peak american.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

So fuck me for discussing American politics on a thread about.... American Politics?

Right now there are 2 sides. The fascists currently running the show, and everybody who doesn't support them. I'm specifically saying that eblveryone who doesn't like concentration camps, gestapo, and the blatant, naked corruption of this administration blput aside theor differences and vote for the party that has a chance to stop it without violence.

I'm specifically trying to fix our shit, so kindly get out the fucking way and jerk off to your own superiority elsewhere.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

So fuck me for discussing American politics on a thread about… American Politics?

You mean shutting down any and all other options then the status quo?

I watched you all tell people that 2 years ago was not the time, that last year was not the time, that now is not the time. So when do you actually fix anything? Because I can see plain as day that it by design is never the time.

You telling people to "kindly get out the fucking way and jerk off to your own superiority elsewhere." for not agreeing with you is (and this should not shock you) more then a little bit fascist. I will keep doing my part where I am and will continue to comment on american politics on a thread about... american politics.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

You were calling me out for discussing American Politics as an American. I personally think I'm entitled to an opinion on my own fucking country's politics, especially when I'm in a position to do something.

All you assholes seem to do is insist that we magic a fix thay cannot happen overnight.

And yeah, 2 years ago we told people to vote against Trump no matter who. But you motherfuckers spent the whole time saying Kamala's nomination wasn't fair, or that the Dems were no worse than the GOP. And it worked and millions stayed home instead of voting for Harris.

That lead dorectly to every fucking thing that's happened under Trump's watch, from wars of choice to gestapo takeovers of American cities, to the murder of hundreds of civilians in fishing boats, to worldwide economic catatrophe, to the deaths of millions from USAID cuts, to the collapse of food safety regulations, and so, so much more.

People like you have blood on your hands.

[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

And their magic solution is always to do nothing, not support the Democrats, and see if total collapse is better than fixing anything.

The crazy part is, you literally can't tell which ones are just teenager morons and which ones are literal fascists, because an adult fascist THINKS LIKE a fucking teenaged moron. So good luck sorting out which of these people means well but is a teenaged idiot, and which ones are the actual fascists.

They make the same arguments with the same flawed logic because they have the same brain limitations.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 9 hours ago

You were calling me out for discussing American Politics as an American. I personally think I’m entitled to an opinion on my own fucking country’s politics, especially when I’m in a position to do something.

Nope, I was (and am) calling you out for pushing the status quo in a broken system. Unlike you people I don't expect you to stop talking or thinking.

All you assholes seem to do is insist that we magic a fix thay cannot happen overnight.

Once again, not from me. I am stating that you all need to start something or you will be in the same place you are now forever.

And yeah, 2 years ago we told people to vote against Trump no matter who. But you motherfuckers spent the whole time saying Kamala’s nomination wasn’t fair, or that the Dems were no worse than the GOP. And it worked and millions stayed home instead of voting for Harris.

Second highest voter turn out in your nations history, but hey since I also never told people to stay home and not vote, you are not only wrong but wrong in multiple ways. The people saying the nomination was not fair where correct, but so what? You had the turn out and more of you americans voted for the yellow king. The world watched him make speeches right from a Mussolini style rally yet you all still voted for that, and instead of any tiny amount of introspection as to why that happened you say shit like that.

That lead dorectly to every fucking thing that’s happened under Trump’s watch, from wars of choice to gestapo takeovers of American cities, to the murder of hundreds of civilians in fishing boats, to worldwide economic catatrophe, to the deaths of millions from USAID cuts, to the collapse of food safety regulations, and so, so much more.

Yes it did, and once again, why do you think it is that people given two choices (the status quo or to burn it all down in a wild racist final ride) they picked the yellow man claiming he would do all of that? You are all way to used to just blaming the other team and hand waving any sort of responsibility.

People like you have blood on your hands.

Ok that is funny.

One, I am sure I do. Why you think you can sit on any sort of high horse as an american is peak comedy.

Two, and I am not sure why I have to keep reiterating this, I never once have told people not to vote. I feel its the least, the very least someone can do. You have painted me as some sort of enemy in your head that you have made for anyone who does not fit into your ideals, something you should understand is very very dangerous.

Three, and this one is the big one. You have the blood on your hands, we are not all american, you are. You have spent your entire life living in a society that tried to dictate what others should and could do, played world police, pushed everyone around, and called out evil when you thought you all saw it. Now it is your turn in the hot seat, and all I see is excuses and digging deeper.

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks for the productive and not at all pretentions, performative comment about a country you don't live in.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Oh not being from a nation has never stopped you people from having an opinion, why would that matter to me?

Or does the collapse of the last superpower (who is actively against my nation) not concern me in a way you care for?

[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Right. You don't live here and you're wildly ignorant of what's happening here politically, but we're still supposed to take your nonstop bullshit lectures about how Democrats are the real problem and what? Just pretend that you're not full of shit?

The problem is Republicans. Full fucking stop.

If you can't get on board with that, then you're not fucking helping anyone other than yourself.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 0 points 9 hours ago

Right. You don’t live here and you’re wildly ignorant of what’s happening here politically, but we’re still supposed to take your nonstop bullshit lectures about how Democrats are the real problem and what? Just pretend that you’re not full of shit?

I am not wildly ignorant, you have all made sure the world is not. And no I did not attack your team unduly, they suck less then the other guys.

The problem is the two party system and americans, no stop since like most things this is not really a thing to be putting in such absolutes. If I can't get on board with that, then what? Your going to threaten me? Invade me? Make me think "correctly"?

I am involved in my way, in my area, in my nation. You can scream all you like into the void you have all made, but I will not "full fucking stop" calling you americans out. Like the little meme we are all typing under.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

Germany says hi :(

[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Republicans are the hammer, Democrats are the anvil.

[–] aamram@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I mean... I'm not in the US but I always thought that you guys have a right wing and a far right wing party. I don't see any leftist party... so it makes sense that they would be more aligned with fascism than socialism in terms of ideology.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 16 hours ago

Parties don't control the politicians inside them the same way they might be able to in some other countries. So it's one fascist party and one big tent everything from left to right party

[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 5 points 20 hours ago

Its kind of the joke here

[–] Alexfire@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

They said the Dems would,

Take away your privacy,

Nope it was maga

[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 16 hours ago

The patriot act was bipartisan. ALPRs are being installed in all states regardless of political affiliation. Data companies donate to politicians on both sides if the isle.

This isn't a partisan thing.

[–] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

AfD winning in Saxony Anhalt... Are you kidding me, guys? Yes, let's support the party that supports putin and ruzzia who keep placing explosives at our power grids cause that's what will make it better surely smh

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 58 points 1 day ago (18 children)

I love how the most basic social democratic(at best) policies in the US are framed as "socialism"

[–] Carmakazi@piefed.social 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The idea of the "undeserving" getting anything provided to them gets a lot of people very angry here. And then those same people probably:

  • Call themselves good Christians.
  • Are beneficiaries of some sort of public welfare whether they realize it or not.
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[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only one threatens their class interests.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup!

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Love that Melania is there but Trump ain't.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 hours ago

Same. In my headcannon, they all insisted she leave him at home and she was happy to comply.

As evidenced by the closest thing to a believably sincere smile she's been wearing in public since before Epstein recruited her.

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