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Welp, thanks for that. Clearly you love your team so much that anyone who does not hold your opinions is a "nazi", there can be nothing but vote for your team after all.
You have no idea how absolutely insane you americans sound. This mess is on all of you, and honestly I would rather the us just collapse at this point. You have no ability or will to fix your party of choice let alone your nation. But please prove me wrong, do anything at this point. Vote blue sure at the very minimum, but please understand that you have an administration currently that does everything by decree and ignores your laws and traditions making your vote mean less and less as days pass.
Have the Dems fucked up a lot? Yes. But short of an actual Civil War, the only way to curb this madness is to vote Dem in November and flip the legislature. The GOP's fascism was hypercharged by targeting the Republican primaries. We can do the same the other direction on the left, and we've had recent success doing just that. And that terrifies the Nazis more than anything.
So they go to our online communities, pretend to be one of us, and try to convince people that the Dems who have failed to stop the GOP are the real problem. The fascists are very active here and elsewhere trying to convince leftists not to vote for the one party that can actually stop the GOP. They say that the Dems are no different than the GOP and try to get the left to split the vote in a manner that will ensure Trump and company win.
Right there you are actively doing what you are accusing others of.
It is not the only way, your american madness is not normal. You claim all online spaces as your own american democrat places, they are not. The world is not putting up with your wild team based bullshit anymore. Fix your shit, its not on the rest of the world to "fall in line" with your views or stop talking or thinking while you do it (or fail to).
The very fact that this statement does not terrify you people is wild, you are all so far up your own team based sauce that you can not see that by making "your team = good, their team = evil" is how you are in this mess. You are living in the honest by any measure end of your nation and are upset anyone thinks that the very system that delivered you to this point is not up to the task is peak american.
So fuck me for discussing American politics on a thread about.... American Politics?
Right now there are 2 sides. The fascists currently running the show, and everybody who doesn't support them. I'm specifically saying that eblveryone who doesn't like concentration camps, gestapo, and the blatant, naked corruption of this administration blput aside theor differences and vote for the party that has a chance to stop it without violence.
I'm specifically trying to fix our shit, so kindly get out the fucking way and jerk off to your own superiority elsewhere.
You mean shutting down any and all other options then the status quo?
I watched you all tell people that 2 years ago was not the time, that last year was not the time, that now is not the time. So when do you actually fix anything? Because I can see plain as day that it by design is never the time.
You telling people to "kindly get out the fucking way and jerk off to your own superiority elsewhere." for not agreeing with you is (and this should not shock you) more then a little bit fascist. I will keep doing my part where I am and will continue to comment on american politics on a thread about... american politics.
You were calling me out for discussing American Politics as an American. I personally think I'm entitled to an opinion on my own fucking country's politics, especially when I'm in a position to do something.
All you assholes seem to do is insist that we magic a fix thay cannot happen overnight.
And yeah, 2 years ago we told people to vote against Trump no matter who. But you motherfuckers spent the whole time saying Kamala's nomination wasn't fair, or that the Dems were no worse than the GOP. And it worked and millions stayed home instead of voting for Harris.
That lead dorectly to every fucking thing that's happened under Trump's watch, from wars of choice to gestapo takeovers of American cities, to the murder of hundreds of civilians in fishing boats, to worldwide economic catatrophe, to the deaths of millions from USAID cuts, to the collapse of food safety regulations, and so, so much more.
People like you have blood on your hands.
And their magic solution is always to do nothing, not support the Democrats, and see if total collapse is better than fixing anything.
The crazy part is, you literally can't tell which ones are just teenager morons and which ones are literal fascists, because an adult fascist THINKS LIKE a fucking teenaged moron. So good luck sorting out which of these people means well but is a teenaged idiot, and which ones are the actual fascists.
They make the same arguments with the same flawed logic because they have the same brain limitations.
Nope, I was (and am) calling you out for pushing the status quo in a broken system. Unlike you people I don't expect you to stop talking or thinking.
Once again, not from me. I am stating that you all need to start something or you will be in the same place you are now forever.
Second highest voter turn out in your nations history, but hey since I also never told people to stay home and not vote, you are not only wrong but wrong in multiple ways. The people saying the nomination was not fair where correct, but so what? You had the turn out and more of you americans voted for the yellow king. The world watched him make speeches right from a Mussolini style rally yet you all still voted for that, and instead of any tiny amount of introspection as to why that happened you say shit like that.
Yes it did, and once again, why do you think it is that people given two choices (the status quo or to burn it all down in a wild racist final ride) they picked the yellow man claiming he would do all of that? You are all way to used to just blaming the other team and hand waving any sort of responsibility.
Ok that is funny.
One, I am sure I do. Why you think you can sit on any sort of high horse as an american is peak comedy.
Two, and I am not sure why I have to keep reiterating this, I never once have told people not to vote. I feel its the least, the very least someone can do. You have painted me as some sort of enemy in your head that you have made for anyone who does not fit into your ideals, something you should understand is very very dangerous.
Three, and this one is the big one. You have the blood on your hands, we are not all american, you are. You have spent your entire life living in a society that tried to dictate what others should and could do, played world police, pushed everyone around, and called out evil when you thought you all saw it. Now it is your turn in the hot seat, and all I see is excuses and digging deeper.
I've spent 30 years fighting to make the world a better place. I've volunteered endlessly. I've worked for non-profits and government agencies. I've supported progressive polticial candidates monetarily and through volunteer work. I've been academically published for my work in environmental science. I've had an AK pointed at my head while delivering medical supplies in South America.
I pull my weight trying to make things better. And I also understand that we have an entrenched system that, while very broken, also has mechanisms built in to change it.
The biggest hurdle we have right now is a 2-party system that right now is a choice between center-right and fascist authoritarianism. As a leftist, I don't love either choice, but I also understand that if we continue to elect the fascists that we won't have an opportunity to move the country leftward. So I hold my nose, vorlte Democrat in the general election, and support leftist candidates in the primaries.
And that's the whole secret. Vote left in the primaries and vote Democrat in the General. And our failure tondo that is why we're in such a shithole situation. In 2000, if just 1% of the Green Party Voters in Florida had voted for Democrat instead of Nader, George W Bush would never have been President. Think about all the harm caused by just a few people deciding Al Fucking Gore wasn't enough of an environmentalist.
Thanks for the productive and not at all pretentions, performative comment about a country you don't live in.
Oh not being from a nation has never stopped you people from having an opinion, why would that matter to me?
Or does the collapse of the last superpower (who is actively against my nation) not concern me in a way you care for?
Right. You don't live here and you're wildly ignorant of what's happening here politically, but we're still supposed to take your nonstop bullshit lectures about how Democrats are the real problem and what? Just pretend that you're not full of shit?
The problem is Republicans. Full fucking stop.
If you can't get on board with that, then you're not fucking helping anyone other than yourself.
I am not wildly ignorant, you have all made sure the world is not. And no I did not attack your team unduly, they suck less then the other guys.
The problem is the two party system and americans, no stop since like most things this is not really a thing to be putting in such absolutes. If I can't get on board with that, then what? Your going to threaten me? Invade me? Make me think "correctly"?
I am involved in my way, in my area, in my nation. You can scream all you like into the void you have all made, but I will not "full fucking stop" calling you americans out. Like the little meme we are all typing under.