AI is like: "i made this"
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Damn, GPTZero also flags it as 57% AI.
I postulated exactly these issues with detecting LLM code in software projects, making "no LLM code"-type policies unenforceable. It doesn't work most of the time now, and it will only get worse in the future.
Before anyone goes on a wild goose chase, this excerpt is on the opening of Chapter 4 instead of 5 in the first edition.
Anyone surprised to find that public domain art is determined to be AI generated does not realize that feeding an LLM requires a lot of art, and public domain is the easiest one to come across. AI detectors, as far as I know, check AI signs, and (most) AI signs came from their use by public domain artworks.
I made a machine with the purpose of literally creating output that plausibly sounds like a human wrote it.
Now that it creates things that sound plausibly like they came from a real person it's a problem. Now quick make something else that pretends to know it's not human when the whole point of the damn machine is to sound human.
Tjciiktn it's ridiculous. HMsie?$+'izhav!&(:8_! This world is so fucked
There was an old lady who swallowed a fly, I don't know why she swallowed a fly – perhaps she'll die!
There was an old lady who swallowed a spider That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her; She swallowed the spider to catch the fly; I don't know why she swallowed a fly – perhaps she'll die!
There was an old lady who swallowed a bird; How absurd to swallow a bird! She swallowed the bird to catch the spider That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her, She swallowed the spider to catch the fly; I don't know why she swallowed a fly – perhaps she'll die!
There was an old lady who swallowed a cat; Well, fancy that, she swallowed a cat! She swallowed the cat to catch the bird, She swallowed the bird to catch the spider That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her, She swallowed the spider to catch the fly; I don't know why she swallowed a fly – perhaps she'll die!
There was an old lady that swallowed a dog; What a hog to swallow a dog! She swallowed the dog to catch the cat, She swallowed the cat to catch the bird, She swallowed the bird to catch the spider That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her, She swallowed the spider to catch the fly; I don't know why she swallowed a fly – perhaps she'll die!
There was an old lady who swallowed a goat; Just opened her throat and swallowed a goat! She swallowed the goat to catch the dog, She swallowed the dog to catch the cat, She swallowed the cat to catch the bird, She swallowed the bird to catch the spider That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her, She swallowed the spider to catch the fly; I don't know why she swallowed a fly – perhaps she'll die!
There was an old lady who swallowed a cow; I don't know how she swallowed a cow! She swallowed the cow to catch the goat, She swallowed the goat to catch the dog, She swallowed the dog to catch the cat, She swallowed the cat to catch the bird, She swallowed the bird to catch the spider That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her, She swallowed the spider to catch the fly; I don't know why she swallowed a fly – perhaps she'll die!
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Yeah yeah AI system has false positives. Like a human, really. In fact humans are pretty bad at detecting AI text: https://arxiv.org/html/2211.13087
Among AI models, Blenderbot stood out: in AI-AI conversations, it was judged human 67% of the times - more often than actual human-human conversations. In human-AI conversations, human participants were labeled as humans 68% of the time, and AIs were classified as AI 56% of the time.
(FYI, a detection rate of 50% is the same as random chance, so 56% is pretty poor)
The point of the post is there is no way to reliably detect it as it just reproduces what it was trained on.
A human also did not take a trillion $ of investment to be able to produce this false output.
The point of the post is there is no way to reliably detect it as it just reproduces what it was trained on.
I hope people realize this before they call out other comments as "AI generated", something I see all too often on Lemmy
Shit like this happens if you train your AI on every god damn fucking text on earth.
I've been commenting on the open, public internet in some form or fashion since the 1900s. These models have been trained to sound like me, not the other way around. Fortunately, the bullies at the back of the class who don't pay attention have mostly caught on to this fact, after having it repeated to them hundreds of times. The other day I was thinking about it, and realized it's been a bit since anybody's accused me of using AI to write a comment. I think it's because I stopped proofreading what I write. Leave in those mistakes and the assholes at the back of the room who don't pay attention are too naive to think that machines can't make mistakes, I guess.
What was the Internet like in 1900? IP over Avian Carriers?
Is this it? My first Lemmy inside joke? I feel honored
If you meant "IP over Avian Carriers", that is a joke everywhere with nerds. It was an inside joke within the IETF. Sorry to break that to you.
No we didn't have birds back then, they hadn't evolved yet.
They still haven't because birds aren't real.
RFC 1149
Intelligence is knowing that Frankenstein is the doctor. Wisdom is knowing that Shelley vibe coded the entire story.
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It's a 100% match on what the model was trained on.
false positives exist, and the real monster is that it also happens with "faces" of criminals.
Personally, I would have put the quotes around "criminals"
Yeah.. I was half asleep... It's like quote dyslexia or smth.
No, you see, they are not the real faces!
We're using AI to determine what is AI, even though AI doesn't know what AI is.
Perfectly reasonable, no careers will be destroyed, surely
Yeah, the AI based "AI detectors" are themselves slop.
Does it think it's AI because it was trained on it so it recognizes it as being part of AI now?
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And this is the "unseen" loss of value. Can you imagine writing a book (by hand the old-fashioned way -- maybe with just a text editor) and submitting it to publish and the publisher rejects it as "written by AI?"
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Those detector sites are really evil. They simply do not work. They can't work. But they are advertising and people are using them to "check" texts. Which then totally fucks students when their idiotic teacher uses such a site and accuses them of using AI tools.
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Ummmm. Thats not how this works . .
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