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[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's not for nothing,it's to fund Israel and his genocide

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Also, Israel has universal healthcare.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And free higher education from what I'm told.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I’m not sure Israeli education is worth even zero dollars, given the kind of monsters it’s churning out.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Jewish people tend to have disproportionate numbers of Nobel Prize winners. Not sure how many of those are from Israel.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

The same institution that gave Obama a peace prize for his participation in the genocide?

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[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 8 points 1 month ago

Never thought about this.

They really do fund a whole country that has way higher living standards (unless you're "an Arab" of course) than their own.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Given the size of the US economy that is peanuts. Bill Clinton managed to pay for Israel and have a balanced budget. The real truth is that the US has cut taxes for the rich. That meant less income and still old levels of spending, hence more debt.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The problem is it’s no longer peanuts. The debt is larger than gdp and the debt payments are the largest government budget item.

We’re already in a crisis of not being able to afford anything and the debt is large enough to crowd that out.

For sure, tax cuts for the wealthy are a huge part of it, but so has the recent destruction of our economy and trade, random use of the military.

FYI - I believe Bill Clinton mostly grew his way out of debt. Hold things steady while growing the economy (so debt is lower percentage), bringing in more tax income, and lowering interest rates. We’re doing the opposite of all three

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago

I am not talking about the debt of the US, but what the US pays Israel being peanuts compared to the kind of money the US government has.

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[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Amerikkka has centibillionaires and trillionaires. Those are super-expensive.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What? No. I was told they were the Job Creators.

[–] Carrot@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, this can't be real, I was told it would trickle down.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

The billionaires are richer though.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh but they have a lot to show for it. Ask anyone living in Iran. Or Israel.

Just not in the USA itself.

What a weird concept.

Everybody in the world can see what American money buys, except Americans.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

We can see it just fine. There's nothing we can do. If you say take arms and start killing people, you'll get a nice ban. Even if we did that, tye rich would hide in their secret bunkers until we all died and buy our houses for pennies on the dollar, and then they'll be in your country buying all your stuff because it still will not be enough.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

I think some did not see it till it was used internally but are waking up. unfortunately some still are blind to it.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

But, they do have good, hard working folks like Elon Musk. That alone makes it all worth it. /s

[–] TiredDinoByte@lemmy.today 7 points 1 month ago

This must be what they mean when they talk about American exceptionalism.

[–] isekaihero@ani.social 6 points 1 month ago

But we have more billionaires than any other country. Isn't that what makes America great? What more do you want?

Here. Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos will trickle down a little more on your head. There you go. Now don't you feel all warm and soaking wet? Bitch.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Won't somebody think of the military industrial complex!?

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

A lot of that money went to funding tax cuts for the Epstein class.

[–] GoTime@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Does that secretary of the week even still have their job?

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 3 points 1 month ago

Lol no. Wasn't she the one who got bitchy about not being inside the airlines food cart? And then she was also fired for being pregnant.

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Declaration of War? Where?

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If all the DSA's in the running get elected, we'll see some measure of change.

There were only like six Tea Party reps that got elected way back when, and we saw how they were able to shake things up.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Tea Party was pushing on an open door. Democrats and Republicans alike were enthusiastically in favor of slashing SS/Medicare, gutting education and housing development, privatizing prisons, and cutting taxes.

The DSA will have an uphill battle. Everything they're asking for in the US is Haram under the current socio-economic order.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

You could certainly be right about that, It's fair to note that DSA's face an uphill battle.

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To add to UnderpantsWeevil's response there is also a pent up demand for something better but that better is going to take time and negotiations (since DSA will not have majority control). My worry is that people will get frustrated that things are not changing fast enough and vote out the progressives.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I still say that is the real problem with Biden’s strategy. So many of the good things done then were long term improvements where we needed to stay the course. Then people got impatient and voted for the chaos we have now

And that’s going to be a huge problem win for the future. Just like American corporations who can no longer think or plan beyond the next quarter, American government can no longer think or plan beyond 2 years.

Our most needed fixes are long term, systemic fixes. Not just single payer healthcare, ubi, ssa, but all sorts of infrastructure (power generation and transmission, transportation, development, water, new technology, science, education). Everywhere I turn we seem to be building beyond what we can afford while having no plan to maintain what is there. We didn’t bring a ladder but keep digging this grave deeper thinking we’ll get out somehow

[–] Klear@piefed.world 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You'd think they'd have at least bullet trains.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They keep emphasizing 'trains'. You gotta know your market. Emphasize the 'bullet'.

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[–] prex@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

Well, they have lots of bullets and, like, at least two trains.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

You can thank the oil industry for that (well auto too). They don’t want any competition for intercity travel. Couple it with the freight train companies that don’t want to share the tracks, so you have to build new tracks. Then you end up with the NIMBYs who are like “I don’t want you going through my land, I may need it some day” and you end up with a stupidly high barrier to entry.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Plenty of rich higher up trash, though. Just sayin.

[–] kaotic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

America's only great for the 1%.

[–] FluidBeef@quokk.au 3 points 1 month ago

They have an aircraft carrier with no catering that would be sunk by hypersonics within minutes of a real war breaking out.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Guess who holds 460 billion dollars worth of it?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I was going to guess Stablecoins, but they only appear to hold $250B. Hedge Funds apparently hold over $2T.

Then I was going to guess Japan or the UK, but it turns out they hold way more - $1.1T and $925B - respectively.

Apparently, the Cayman Islands holds $460B. Is that the answer?

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

🤞Please don’t be a triple parentheses guy…

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

We have the most billionaires!

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

And even the military is a laughing stock and being out of stock of interceptor missiles.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

theres also disconnect between the voters and the debt, they dont anything is happening to them financially so they ignore it.

[–] crazyslinkz@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

We did get stuff, poisoned water, poisoned food, and maybe a trillionaire!

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Come on, we have our very own trillionaire!

[–] isles@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, definitely those DSA are just jealous. I protest any policy that would get in the way of me becoming a trillionaire though.

[–] Alexfire@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Companies don't pay enough so the whole tax base is lower than it should be, and definitely need higher tax rates, like it was when so much of the country was built and funded publicly. Some claim to want those olden days again, and wouldn't pay the full taxes anyway after all the deductions. Higher wages and if ever had healthcare for all, workers would have much better quality of life, less stress from scarcity, closer to EU benefits, but still not paid sick, family leave and vacation time at all jobs.

Enough workers must get better benefits than others, they say everyone can do the same, but it's not true, and it's an example of the selfishness that runs deep. Another example is when they see others with benefits they don't have, they want it taken away, rather than realize they deserve it too. From the lore of "pioneers, explorers and the self-made who did it all on their own," people today think they did too. Good for those that really did, and lots of hard workers for sure, but most had help in various ways they don't recognize. I'm not sure if anything will get them to see the truth, since they rely so much on their team for identity, and it teaches them to stay in the basic right/wrong thinking and don't want to think beyond that, too hard, and thinking is stoopid!

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Or we could audit the largest line item literally once. Just one time. Lots of savings to be had there.

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

money for nothing and the chicks for free!

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