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The US Army’s Apache helicopters are crashing at a historically high rate amid a widespread problem with the model’s transmission, according to a CNN analysis of military accident data.

The helicopter type has experienced five major crashes since October, and a deadly mishap earlier this month in Texas killed two soldiers, sparked a wildfire and led the Army to temporarily bar Apache pilots from conducting routine training flights. With that crash, fiscal year 2026 is on pace to be the second worst for Apache flight accidents since a new model of the AH-64 was rolled out in 2011.

The Army announced that the pause in training flights, which exempted units deployed to the Middle East, ended Wednesday.

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[–] waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world 120 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's what happens when you put some dipshit who thinks militaries should be only "warriors" when all of history tells you successful militaries are logistics engines first and foremost

[–] grue@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And worse, when professionalism is replaced with naked sycophancy and corruption.

[–] borkborkbork@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago

I wonder how many thousands are gonna get fucked up by being roided up on testosterone supplements they never needed.

[–] alpha1beta@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago

It's a leadership skill issue.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Once upon a time I would find this sad because USA was an ally defending democracy and freedom, or at least so I thought.
But honestly today, I don't give a shit.

Fuck USA.

[–] devaly@ani.social 65 points 1 week ago (4 children)

They never, ever, defended democracy.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 44 points 1 week ago (22 children)

Quite the opposite in fact 🤷

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[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 19 points 1 week ago

Here in the grand ole USA we defend concepts even higher than the ideal of democracy first and foremost. Fruit companies. Oil. Shareholder value. HOO-RAH!

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We straight up installed dictators and over threw democracies all over the world in the fight against communism because they decided to vote in more left leaning politicians.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I’m very well aware of the failings of the US, but to claim that the US has “never, ever” been on the side of the “good guys” is manifestly false. Specifically: WW2.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

WW2

You're gonna hate to learn they needed to be paid-off to get into that conflict. "But but but mercenaries for the good guys that time" doesn't hit so hard.

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[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

defending democracy and freedom

When exactly if I may ask

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
  • WW2

But to be fair, that is pretty much the only unambiguous example that comes to mind.

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[–] FluidBeef@quokk.au 45 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Genuinely the recent sci-fi trope where the current wave of human civilisation simply sputters to a halt because all the technology is too complicated and unrepairable with built-in obsolescence and all operational knowledge tied up within itself

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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is what an un-audited military gets you. Auditing the pentagon’s budget is a matter of serious national security. If they don’t submit to one, they are not defending the nation so should be completely defunded.

[–] crispbacon99@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yep. It's obvious if you pay attention to real veteran complaints about the va not having enough resources or always denying claims. The money is being funneled to those at the top

[–] Traister101@lemmy.today 11 points 1 week ago

The purpose of the MIC is to funnel money to wealthy contractors

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

MIC stock goes brrrrrrr

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The reason the Taliban didn't bother trying to use US helicopters and other advanced equipment left in Afghanistan, was that the required maintenance wasn't just expensive, it required a robust supply infrastructure.

The entire US military has massive supply issues, and the idiots running it will keep destroying very expensive equipment and risking the lives of service members because they're not acknowledging the supply issues.

No one wants to put ten toes down and say "that can't fly".

Because all the high up officers who won't just tell trump what he wants, resigned to protect their pensions.

They're all cowards and this is on their hands as much as the yes men who stayed in.

[–] Town@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think Americans are starting to realize Trump see us as entirely disposable.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's not that, it's the same shit as what happened to the Soviet military.

It's nothing but grifters and yes men, so "on paper" doesn't match reality.

Like inventory sheet says 100 helicopters that have been getting a million dollars of maintenance a month. But in reality you got 50 "good enough" and 50 that literally can't fly. You can't admit that, so the 50 do double duty flights, still not getting maintenance even tho the government is paying for all 100 to be serviced.

The "good enoughs" could be brought up to working order, but instead the problem is hid, and they crash totalling them out and people die. Everytime it happens, it increases the odds of happening again.

This isn't just something that can be fixed on day 1. It's a rot deep inside the military because everyone not doing it at a high level resigned.

Now we got to push everyone still in out, and replace them.

That takes decades at this level, because new officers need to raise their the ranks, and good people won't join till the image recovers.

Whether it's for better or worse we'll have to wait and see, but the days of global American military precense won't be back for 20 years at least.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Those helicopters have low testosterone.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Maybe they need gender affirming care?

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[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Boeings doing what Boeings always do, nothing different about the Boeing.

[–] 0x4f1@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Let me guess, AI decided to extend certain maintenance schedules and the wrenches who know better were ordered to go along with it.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Engineers are woke. We DOGEd em all because we care about your freedom

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm picturing the selection process for pilots to be the same as Battlefield games where it's first person to get in the vehicle.

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[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Good. Maybe they’ll have to take a break from blowing up schoolgirls and hospitals.

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A lot of comments on here didn't read the article and/or simply don't know how aviation or military aviation works.
Some blaming the current administration even though the article notes a slightly higher accident rate in 2024. The current model Helicopter was fielded in 2011, and the article doesn't mention when the transmission issues began.
This could be a maintenance problem, a Boeing problem. Is Boeing or an army subcontractor rebuilding the transmissions?
I just did inspections on some gearboxes because the incorrect self-locking nuts were used. I've seen a series of accidents caused by o-rings made out of spec internal to hydraulic servos. I remember NASA killing a crew due to o-ring issues. I remember a few decades ago Airbus had a series of helicopter accidents where the main rotors detached due to a gear in the main transmissions being hardened incorrectly. Before all that De Haviland Comets were coming apart in air due to metal fatigue.

We should be concerned with the reaction to and correction of the issues. The Army has grounded training flights, which they should. Not long ago the V-22 fleet was grounded for like a year while clutch failures were investigated.

Just because YOU'VE only just heard of an issue doesn't mean it hasn't been a long standing issue nor that it's the fault of whoever is in charge right now. We need more information before we start finger pointing.

Though Boeing has been on a downhill trend since the McDonald Douglas takeover.

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[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Sure, we'll stop supporting affirmative action and pretend that firing anyone who wasn't us was a good idea. It's not like being a mechanic requires a certain degree of oddball tendencies, and going out of our way to punish oddballs definitely won't come back to bite us.

Sabotage? What's that?

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I support this message. Ignore the empty-headed uncritical moralizing from the other comment. These helicopters are weapons of genocide and colonialism, the people flying them understand their function. You shouldn't feel burdened and shunned for writing down what most of us are already feeling, and that feeling is not ultimately in conflict with a universal respect for all life.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] nomecks@lemmy.wtf 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Behold: The commoditized military!

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Behold the new fundamentally flawed apache attack helicopter, hundreds of millions spent to replace the old fundamentally flawed apache attack helicopter. Boeing too busy counting their money to notice.

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[–] obvs@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh...

No...

I am SOOOOOO concerned...

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[–] Widdershins@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

This is what happens when they leave the Jesus pin out of helicopter mechanic school

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

They must have bought them from the U.S. and, as we all suspected, someone is playing around with the kill switches. /s

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