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[–] BunScientist@lemmy.zip 110 points 1 month ago (7 children)

From what I know, it has to do with the word red covering the purple part of the spectrum long ago, and the "need" for the word purple came out later but purple things that were named red didn't get renamed.

You can look at japanese right now and 青い covers both blue and green, with a relatively recent addition of 緑 to cover only green (thus possibly pushing 青い in the future to be only blue, who knows)

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Similarly, the red fox is clearly orange, but English speakers were exposed to that species of fox before developing a word for that specific color. For bonus linguistical oddities, 'orange' was used for the fruit before it was used for the color.

[–] JamieDub86@piefed.social 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or the red squirrel, which is brown.

[–] TisI@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

And red hair.

[–] metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub 7 points 1 month ago

And the fruit's name is different from other countries' names for it because "a naranj" was misheard as "an orange" and it stuck. Yellow-red wasn't much adopted, though it did exist. Such is language, what a fun collective hallucination.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 month ago

Yes, the word for greenery/foliage, 青葉, translates to "blue leaves"

Also the green traffic light is called blue

[–] JamieDub86@piefed.social 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well whys it called Shepherds Pie when it doesnt contain shepherds, or Cottage Pie when its nothing to do with cottages or cottagimg? How about that one...checkmate!!!

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And baby powder is never powdered babies!

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[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago

I already knew this about colors (it's also why "redheads" have orange hair) but I recently dug more into how the musical spectrum and how tones are defined is very similar in it's cultural variance. Another thing is how the cardinal directions are divided radially and how time is counted. Shit counting bases even, most of the imperial measurements are based on either base 12 or base 16 math.

Wild to think that something you grew up with as a fundamental fact of the world might actually be super culturally subjective.

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[–] Doom@lemmy.world 65 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Because they are only purple on the inside. Do you think apples are white? Or bananas?

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[–] lauha@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Humans are red so why not?

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[–] gergolippai@lemmy.world 58 points 1 month ago (2 children)

in hungarian it's purple onion, you just choose the wrong language :)

[–] webp@mander.xyz 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At least we aren't hungary all the time

[–] gergolippai@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

also, take my upvote

[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago

in portuguese too

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 42 points 1 month ago (2 children)

why do we call green grapes white

[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Or purple grapes red?

(I'm guessing due to the type of wine they make)

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't even get me started on 'white' people.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (12 children)

Meanwhile stupid USians subscribe to the literal 19th-century ‘scientific racism’ theory that has ‘Caucasian people’ as something other than deeply tan skin that Caucasian people actually have.

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[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Grapes don't make wine, silly. They're inert.

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[–] hanke@feddit.nu 8 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Who calls green grapes white..?

Never heard that happen

[–] anewfox@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

two examples: white wine, white grape juice. both are very common. seems to refer to the juice color, not the color of the grape skins.

when they're made into raisins, they're called golden raisins. so "white" isn't even the only one.

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[–] Tiral@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So, this is kinda weird, but general colors didn't have names for a long time. Like in Greek texts by Homer he describes the water color as dark wine color because the name "blue" wasn't a word. So it's possible when they named a "red onion" purple wasn't a color and considered a shade of red.

Also as others have said purple was the color of royalty and they didn't want an association.

[–] FrChazzz@lemmus.org 17 points 1 month ago (9 children)

It's kind of wild when you learn that words for blue are relatively new in human language.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In Japanese it’s the reverse; ‘blue’ is used for blue and green; designating green as the different color is relatively recent for them

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[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because the dry outer skin is a rich red colour

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[–] poipoiuleon@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In Spanish we actually call them "cebolla morada" that means purple onion :D

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m bilingual and I always forget which language calls it which, so I get confused looks from everyone.

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[–] Danarchy@lemmy.nz 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It refers to the communism of the onions

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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

What really gets me is that the compounds responsible for this hue in food are called "anthocyanins" which means "blue flower." I can't even.

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

We call them purple in Spanish... English has brain damage as per usual.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago

It wanted to be associated with the proletariat not the ruling class.

[–] atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Jess and Rob on Words Unraveled talk about color word origins, and their discussion is illuminating about the cultural variance in perception of color. Now I am at peace with all the seemingly weird color names for things.

For a quicker tour, Vox talks about the order that languages fill in color words as cultures begin to refine their distinction.

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[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I spent way too much time sitting in the backseat looking out the window on long family drives wondering why the fuck they kept referring to the orange cheddar cheese as "yellow" cheese. Still kind of annoys me today after decades of getting older and settling down a bit.

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[–] kamen@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

There's a joke in Bulgarian somewhat related to that. What's commonly referred to as a prune plum we call something that roughly translates to "blue plum". The joke goes something like this:

-- Dad, what's this?

-- It's a blue plum.

-- Why is it red?

-- Because it's green.

Language is weird, but it's ironic that our use of it makes it so.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 9 points 1 month ago

The skin of red onions is reddish to purple. The flesh is purple much like shallots. But the skin sets them apart.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 9 points 1 month ago
[–] Speiser0@feddit.org 8 points 1 month ago

The inside is purple, but the outside is red, especially if it's dry.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)
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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Same reason they call the tree a "Redbud tree."

Barely literate settlers were colonizing and writing home about the beautiful ~~Puple~~ ~~Prule~~ ~~Purlple~~ ~~Lavendaar~~ Red-Bud Trees.

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago

I've found the color in a things name usually points to what color dye you can extract from it.

[–] KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org 6 points 1 month ago

Calm down... calm down... Perhaps consider putting the onions aside and trying a nice parsnip.

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