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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 19 points 2 weeks ago

This is what all the big promises have amounted to for most people: cars that are more and more expensive, devoid of physical controls which makes vehicles less safe, and constantly monitoring everything you do with the option for manufacturers to change whatever they want in your vehicle, including sticking a Spider-Man ad in front of you and presenting it as a fun “surprise.”

Reminds me of:

Science fiction’s superpower isn’t thinking up new technologies – it’s thinking up new social arrangements for technology. What the gadget does is nowhere near as important as who the gadget does it for and who it does it to. Your car can use a cutting-edge computer vision system to alert you when you’re drifting out of your lane – or it can use that same system to narc you out to your insurer so they can raise your premiums by $10 that month to punish you for inattentive driving. Same gadget, different social arrangement.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

funny thing is tom hollands spiderman jokingly is also known as 'palantir peter on a sub, because he all this monitoring equipment in his home, provided by stark.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The marvel series is USA propaganda.

People need to vote with their wallets. There are millions of older cars out there that are perfectly reliable for daily use.

[–] purplerabbit@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

We were promised a [INSERT ANYTHING HERE] revolution, instead we got [SAME THING AS BEFORE] tracking us and serving us ads.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 1 points 2 weeks ago

I bought a manual from 2015 a few months back, cash in hand, and decided I’m not replacing the head unit ever. I want the car to be a time machine that sends you back to an era that sucked far less.

[–] anonymouspl@piefed.world -3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

This is only downside of electric cars for me.

[–] Overspark@piefed.social 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This has nothing to do with cars being electric, the ad was shown on modern ICE BMW's too.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 12 points 2 weeks ago

Yep, stupidity is applied to all cars.

[–] Megaman_EXE@beehaw.org 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I want cars with buttons and knobs

[–] anonymouspl@piefed.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I fully get that. I personally can accept well designed screens but I know I am in the minority.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago

I still need to look at it to hit the target.

[–] seang96@spgrn.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

I hate using Google maps but stuck with it for live updates. Using android auto, I complained for years about the layout and finally they updated it so the buttons were on side and bottom so you can physically align using the screens frame.. For the most part. Their button order still is dumb if I recall correctly.

[–] borkborkbork@piefed.social 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

looking forward to the slate - no garbage, just ev truck.

shame it's a bezos startup tho.

Telo may be awesome too if it survives.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Do you know if Telo has telemetry? Can't find info on that anywhere.

[–] borkborkbork@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

I do not. If they get gobbled up, it'll have it for sure, but so far it's a tiny company so....?

[–] SteevyT@beehaw.org 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

In their discord one of their engineers has mentioned opt in for vehicle lifecycle telemetry (battery health, temp, draw, charge cycles, specifically said that location and even speed would be mostly useless for them so no plans to collect that). Whether that means they won't collect it, or can't collect it I'm not 100% sure.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Connectivity and telemetry starts off about improving the product and ends up with subscription features and selling your behaviour.

And I hate that because the privacy implications are significant but the utility of the data is too, in so many areas - provided it’s reviewed and used, which it frankly seldom is because politics get in the way.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's disappointing to hear. I hope there's an easy way to reversibly disconnect the data antenna while keeping every other service intact. It really sucks being constantly aware that anything you say in your own car's cabin may no longer be private.

[–] its_me_xiphos@beehaw.org 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Slate would be perfect for my current needs. Less than 25km a day, trips to buy wood for my shitty woodworking, etc. Stuff too big or too far to use my bike for safely. Its slated (sorry...) for 2027. It's not my time.

So here in the land of geese and syrup we've got giant American earth destroyers or the tiny Japanese utility trucks. In between would be awesome. The Chinese EV's with some Pickups are coming and, although the monitoring and data capture bothers me, somehow it feels the lesser of two evils compared to legacy makers with this pay to play and forced ad combination. Is that an accurate assessment?

[–] doleo@lemmy.one 1 points 2 weeks ago

They are cars. There's your downside.