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[–] Echinoderm@aussie.zone 60 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Superman comes from a position of absurd privilege wherein he can do whatever he wants without risk to himself, and can put on a pair of glasses to become anonymous afterwards.

Everyone else has occasionally consider a compromise between what they think is right and what is pragmatic or necessary.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 69 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

Superman taught us to use the privilege we have to help those that don't.

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[–] human@slrpnk.net 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

My personal compromise is that I wear my underwear on the outside, but I don't do any of the other stuff Superman does.

[–] AscendantSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Your underwear's not on the outside if you aren't wearing anything else at all

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Technically if it’s on the outside it’s overwear!

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

Same here. Except I wear boxers and slacks.

[–] blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago

This doesn't invalidate the idea of doing the right thing just because it's right when you can.

Superman is an ideal to strive for, not a model to emulate. Ideals are goals and guides. But pragmatism and necessity still factors into decision making

[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

I wouldn't call 'being the only one who can take the call when Darkseid rolls up' privilege.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 41 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My favorite scene in the MCU comes in Captain America - The Winter Soldier.

Hydra's toughest badass is holding a gun on an unarmed technician, telling him to set off a weapon.

The pencil necked nerd boy stands up to the killer.

"Sorry, Captain's orders."

That's the point of having heroes. They show us how we're supposed to behave.

It doesn't matter if you're doing it because you were inspired by Superman, Harriet Tubman, or Toto the dog.

[–] content_educator_94@thelemmy.club 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He also taught us you should drop netanyahu from the sky to make him crap his pants

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're right thank you for correcting me

[–] dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Superman taught me that you have to be born powerful to change the world.

Superman is not superman because he's a Kryptonian with super powers. Superman is superman because he's an idealist and selflessly works his ass off every day to uphold those ideals in any way that he can. It just so happens that what he can do is superhuman. But we can all still contribute to an ideal like him. We can refuse to accept the world we have, the would we think we deserve, the world we think is realistic, but instead work toward an ideal world that we push for every day.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

If a Zionist kills a child in front of me while laughing, being good would be smashing their skull in with a brick.

*Not surprised I got two people to reply that I've already blocked lol.

[–] leg@leminal.space 1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm the type of guy to say we ought to show the goodness of humanity even to our most evil members. But I'm not one to say you're unjustified for any actions you take when that evil is right in front you, murdering a child. I won't call your answer good, but I won't call it wrong either.

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[–] 5ha99y@lemmus.org 15 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] kubica@fedia.io 30 points 3 weeks ago

Superman, now stop making questions.

[–] mrmisses@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Not Israel, republicans, Putin, or North Korea

[–] 5ha99y@lemmus.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

So Homelander defines good? The "the boys" equivalent of superman.

[–] bryophile@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah sounds kind of problematic to do whatever you think is good "no matter what the world tells you".

Morality is born from a collective. Typical American superheroes with their shallow ideals.

[–] blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If only there were decades worth of stories where Superman's morality was defined and expanded upon to provide a reasonable template that lends to genuine analysis even in academic and philosophical studies.

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[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Sir. This is a Wendy’s

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Also Hawk Girl is a based mother fucker who what she did to Nenjamin Betanyahu

[–] spacegoat@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Superman taught me to not nut in my coffee

[–] Cattail@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

I'll teach you to say fuck you to all the people that tell you to be mean

[–] Bieren@lemmy.today 6 points 3 weeks ago
[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

Superman taught me that green rock scary

[–] justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

I'm sure the vast majority of humans are good. just the definition of what is good differs quiet much

[–] andMoonsValue@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I don't get it, where is the depressing punchline?

[–] SirHery@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean yeah, but even if people boast about it, they did something good. I don't think you absolutely have to idealise it.

[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 3 points 3 weeks ago

Oh but you do have to with Superman. That's the entire point of his character and when stories about him shine; when they're about pressing morals and not so much a big baddy to fight. He can do about anything he wants, so it kinda' requires him to be pressed in other ways. Stories that only put him in cliche fights or just have him morally grandstanding are the worst. He is idealized, and that needs to be reconciled with a world that has a lot of grey in it.

The recent superman movie did a decent job of it, the one with Krypto.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 3 weeks ago

Well, start.

Start now!

[–] the_q@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

Define good.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

According to Bob Chipman

Superman only makes sense in the context of a worldview where good is the default setting of the universe and the job of a being of godlike power who aims to do good is to fix things when they break and thwart evil from spoiling the natural state of goodness.

Because if the universe is not good at its core then the moral responsibility of that same godlike being who wants to do good is to assume power absolutely and make the universe good by force.

And that’s not Superman.

I don't think IRL, good is the default setting of the universe.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Superman would disagree with you. But whether that is naivete or the hope that he represents made manifest, it really wouldn't matter to him. In a world where the default was pure evil, he'd still be championing an ideal. One that might not ever exist, but it wouldn't be through lack of trying on his part. And totalitarianism or abuse of his abilities to force his desires would absolutely never fit that ideal.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If you look around in your own life, I bet you will see that the majority of people you actually know seems good.

Just down turn on the TV. It's called propaganda for a reason.

And about being good, you don't do it to gain any benefits. People seem to think that... Why be good, I don't get benefits from it.

Then you are not good yourself, because a good person doesn't have a choice. He is good because his consciousness is good. Not because of any benefits. Some good people are good because they are afraid too. They are good because they fear conflict.

And bad people are not good because they get benefits and want those benefits. It's simple.

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