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China-led EV boom cuts global oil demand by 1.7mn barrels a day (www.intellinews.com)
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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

105 million barrels of oil/day globally, which is weirdly missing from that article. China consumes 16.189 mil b/d, 3x more than the 3rd place consumer India (5.271 mil b/d)

As feels all too normal these days, US consumption is difficult to know - Trump/DOGE have utterly destroyed the agency responsible for calculating it after they reported a reduction in consumption. Most estimates put it at around 19 mil b/d, based on the increase in US EVs (7%) and the sharp reduction in driving due to the high price of oil as a result of the iran war.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Crazy that a country with 4x less people can manage to use more oil.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Especially given China has 90m more cars than the US, produces 2.3x more electricity than the US (10.5TWh vs 4.5TWH) and consumes 3x more oil than India, the most populated country.

Its really hard to report on this given how complex it is - For example: "The gap in consumption between the US and China is really down to China's consumption of coal for primary power generation (60%) vs the US (9%) where coal isn't included in the barrel/day totals". Easy to say, but a gross oversimplification of the situation. There's also serious pressure in the US not to report on the energy sector because of Trump - which is why most people don't know more than 50% of US power is now supplied by solar/nuclear/wind/hydro ~~despite the orange bastard's best efforts...~~

Consumer consumption per capita is also a useful but in this case somewhat misleading statistic - I really wish I could cite sources on industrial vs consumer power consumption to explain because it's really very interesting, but those data sets were killed by Elon when he murdered the EIA (along with the rest of the US stastical core).

(edit: wtf is with the formatting here, it keeps sticking random HTML tags into this comment. My apologies if this looks weird)

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But China is also building more renewable farms and nuclear than the rest of the world combined, while the US is going the opposite direction.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I'm not sure how that's relevant to what I said here, but yes they are indeed doing that!

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

And it's not from industry, it's just people driving around.

[–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My ev goes about 80 miles on 20kwh, which is about half a gallon of gas, lets call it 0.75 gallos of gas.

80 miles/0.75 gallons = 106 miles per gallon, which is almost exactly 4x more efficient than my gas car i had before.

Ignoring oil changes or whatever, if i exclusively charged my car via gasoline generator, id still be better off than someone with a gas powered car.

Now add on that a power plant is much more efficient than a gas powered generator, or that they may have renewable sources for their power, and... Why isnt everyone swapping to EVs?

Newer ones charge in 15 mins or less, you can plug it in at home, its cheaper, has less maintenance, typically more storage, environmentally conscious, quieter so you can hear music better, the accelleration is very punchy when needed and smooth the rest of the time (if youre into that kinda thing).

It makes no sense.

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

...but at what cost! 😱

[–] zigmus64@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The cheaper the better. That’ll help ensure wider adoption

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If Americans could do math, they would realize that the 5 year total costs are less with EV, assuming they don't start another oil war.

[–] zigmus64@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I’m pretty sure most car notes would be equivalent to the price in gas they’d pay or close to it.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I see headline and start typing before reading the article

Wait is something positive being said about China?

AGHHHH !!!

I begin smashing furniture in righteous rage

So you don't care about DEMOCRACY do you!?!!

You think EVERYTHING is better there I know it and if I don't point this out surely the propaganda will take hold here!

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

... Nobody's acting like that, though?