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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago

This is wrong. We can also curb extremely wasteful production.

[–] AlboTheGuy@feddit.nl 5 points 7 hours ago

Less consumers and less slaves? Noooo what will the investors do? We need MORE MORE MORE

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

The issue with halving in that people will be left beehind alone and sad. We could just remove all humas, this way nobody is sad

[–] GodyGade@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Or, yk, live in a different way. But that might be harder than having a lot of people die. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Gee, I wonder which group is going to be genocided by the wealthy....

What, you think it'll just be one group?

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Most of the destruction is Capitalism and Consumer Society overproduction and overexploitation - a lot of unecessary shit is done and a lot of what's done is done in unecessarily destructive ways (with lots of Negative Externatities) when it could've been done in far less destructive but less profit-generating ways, all because our political and economic structures are dedicated to the maximization of the wealth of the richest people.

(It's not by chance that Ecologist parties are generally leftwing - the politicies for protecting the Environment are generally diametrally opposite of the politicies that maximize the investment profits of those who own most shit and have the most money)

I bet that only about 100 people need to die (all billionaires) to save the planet, an acceptable sacrifice.

[–] alexquiniou@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

I have seen that movie. It's kingsman. And the end is fabulous.

Head explosions !!

[–] Balldowern@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Prepare for nuclear war folks.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 1 points 12 hours ago

Thanos did nothing wrong

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 115 points 1 day ago (20 children)

How about we start with 1% and see what happens.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Then the systems that prop up that 1% continue on as if nothing happened, only people might be paid more evenly.

That's it. Expecting a fundamental shift in how humanity/global society functions just because a comparitive handful of people die is just ridiculous.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

The absence of their influence in Politics will make a massive difference.

The resources captured by the rich are probably a far smaller part of the problems they make than how they use the money they have to shape Politics and Public Opinion (via the Media they own), hence policies, hence the way our society and economy operates to maximized their own wealth.

Most Overconsumption and Negative Externality problems (both things that serve to maximized the profits that end up in the hands of Asset Owners and both the kind of thing that most damages the Environment) could be legislated away, but there is no will and there is no will because the politicians and the media are bought by those who benefit from things being as they are, and they are bought because those people have lots of money to buy them with.

Take the power to buy politicians and deciding what the press puts out away from the rich and all of a sudden profit-reducing pro-Environmental policies are not just politically acceptable but even demanded by public opinion, and given that said rich people would never give up on that without a massivelly destructive fight (literally Revolution), the safest and best option for about 99.9998% of people (8 billion minus 10,000 out of 8 billion) would probably be that a handful of rich people just die.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

But we won't know for sure unless we try.

And of course if they are gone, they won't be there to kick and scream like children against every step of progress.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 13 hours ago

are the avengers going to say thier sorry for thanos.

[–] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But the billionaires say we need MORE people so they have enough slaves of the colors they like!

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It's like dogs or ball pythons. They're breeding selectively for the most desirable (to them) traits

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[–] meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 12 hours ago

Or we could try to not live and consume resources at the scale of the average US household (let alone the accursed millionaire and billionaire classes).

Plenty of stuff to go around actually

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Sylence@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago

The koalas are cunts but at least they enforce 18-hour mandatory breaks.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There was this book about a fertility reducing virus.

[–] irish_link@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thanos could have doubled the amount of space and resouces in the universe just as easily.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Just to get swallowed up by the same 1%?

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter one way or the other. Let's say there's a 1% growth rate of the population. That means you're back to the original population in 70 years. Or doubled the resource use.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Since he has infinite power, he could have just made it so capacity constantly increases with population.

As you said, either way, it is a flawed premise.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Actually scientists in the 1970s were saying we need to do what we can to stabilize AT the 4 billion we were at then. See Limits to Growth and related studies. Cutting back now would help, but far more damage has been caused thanks to everything we've done including but not limited to population pressures than if we had heeded the warnings then and changed our direction. Some feedbacks are probably unstoppable now, no matter what we cut back.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That was primarily about the ability to provide food. The same scientists back then would have said we can't even reach this population level while eating meat.

They were correct until we advanced agricultural science and found ways to more than double our food production.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Almost like its not a population problem, its a logistics problem.

[–] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Hey... How dare you bring logic into my eco-fashy views of "fixing" global suffering...

/s

(Also not making fun of the comment you responded to, but those that I have seen so much on reddit.)

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 1 day ago

Always has been.

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[–] Nofearfrontier@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Are these scientists with us on the room right now?

[–] jim_v@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Halve Life 4b confirmed.

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