This is wrong. We can also curb extremely wasteful production.
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Less consumers and less slaves? Noooo what will the investors do? We need MORE MORE MORE
The issue with halving in that people will be left beehind alone and sad. We could just remove all humas, this way nobody is sad
Or, yk, live in a different way. But that might be harder than having a lot of people die. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Gee, I wonder which group is going to be genocided by the wealthy....
What, you think it'll just be one group?
Most of the destruction is Capitalism and Consumer Society overproduction and overexploitation - a lot of unecessary shit is done and a lot of what's done is done in unecessarily destructive ways (with lots of Negative Externatities) when it could've been done in far less destructive but less profit-generating ways, all because our political and economic structures are dedicated to the maximization of the wealth of the richest people.
(It's not by chance that Ecologist parties are generally leftwing - the politicies for protecting the Environment are generally diametrally opposite of the politicies that maximize the investment profits of those who own most shit and have the most money)
I bet that only about 100 people need to die (all billionaires) to save the planet, an acceptable sacrifice.
I have seen that movie. It's kingsman. And the end is fabulous.
Head explosions !!
Prepare for nuclear war folks.
Thanos did nothing wrong
How about we start with 1% and see what happens.
Then the systems that prop up that 1% continue on as if nothing happened, only people might be paid more evenly.
That's it. Expecting a fundamental shift in how humanity/global society functions just because a comparitive handful of people die is just ridiculous.
The absence of their influence in Politics will make a massive difference.
The resources captured by the rich are probably a far smaller part of the problems they make than how they use the money they have to shape Politics and Public Opinion (via the Media they own), hence policies, hence the way our society and economy operates to maximized their own wealth.
Most Overconsumption and Negative Externality problems (both things that serve to maximized the profits that end up in the hands of Asset Owners and both the kind of thing that most damages the Environment) could be legislated away, but there is no will and there is no will because the politicians and the media are bought by those who benefit from things being as they are, and they are bought because those people have lots of money to buy them with.
Take the power to buy politicians and deciding what the press puts out away from the rich and all of a sudden profit-reducing pro-Environmental policies are not just politically acceptable but even demanded by public opinion, and given that said rich people would never give up on that without a massivelly destructive fight (literally Revolution), the safest and best option for about 99.9998% of people (8 billion minus 10,000 out of 8 billion) would probably be that a handful of rich people just die.
But we won't know for sure unless we try.
And of course if they are gone, they won't be there to kick and scream like children against every step of progress.
are the avengers going to say thier sorry for thanos.
But the billionaires say we need MORE people so they have enough slaves of the colors they like!
It's like dogs or ball pythons. They're breeding selectively for the most desirable (to them) traits
Or we could try to not live and consume resources at the scale of the average US household (let alone the accursed millionaire and billionaire classes).
Plenty of stuff to go around actually
Ecofascism.
The koalas are cunts but at least they enforce 18-hour mandatory breaks.
There was this book about a fertility reducing virus.
Thanos could have doubled the amount of space and resouces in the universe just as easily.
Just to get swallowed up by the same 1%?
It doesn't matter one way or the other. Let's say there's a 1% growth rate of the population. That means you're back to the original population in 70 years. Or doubled the resource use.
Since he has infinite power, he could have just made it so capacity constantly increases with population.
As you said, either way, it is a flawed premise.
Actually scientists in the 1970s were saying we need to do what we can to stabilize AT the 4 billion we were at then. See Limits to Growth and related studies. Cutting back now would help, but far more damage has been caused thanks to everything we've done including but not limited to population pressures than if we had heeded the warnings then and changed our direction. Some feedbacks are probably unstoppable now, no matter what we cut back.
That was primarily about the ability to provide food. The same scientists back then would have said we can't even reach this population level while eating meat.
They were correct until we advanced agricultural science and found ways to more than double our food production.
Almost like its not a population problem, its a logistics problem.
Hey... How dare you bring logic into my eco-fashy views of "fixing" global suffering...
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(Also not making fun of the comment you responded to, but those that I have seen so much on reddit.)
Always has been.
Are these scientists with us on the room right now?
Halve Life 4b confirmed.