What about driverless trains?
Double less crashes.
this post was submitted on 25 Jul 2026
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I honestly doubt it, since the vast majority of crashes occur when there's something not working (e.g. signal won't turn to green, track detection system not working) - scenarios where driverless trains need human intervention anyway.
I think he was joking
You think people would do that? Go onto the internet and tell jokes?
Are… are you serious?
I'm the joker, baby.
OK ok ok ok OK... (lol) yes, he was probably joking. I thought it might be interesting to add the information anyway, in case anyone took it seriously (seems like a logical conclusion at first glance, after all)
There was very nasty train crash in Spain a few years ago because the driver was speeding and the train derailed.
Exceptions prove the rule. On top of that, that crash occurred on the border between two train control systems (ETCS and ASFA, if I remember correctly), where there ended up being quite a gap in train protection. As much as the problem was the speeding driver, it was also a dangerous gap in train control where whoever planned it really screwed up.
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I got the joke. :)
And do you know what trains and trams crash into? Its not other trains and trams...
Trains sometimes crash into each other. It isn't common, but it happens
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Actually in my city a tram crashed on another tram literally two days ago. Also train hitting trains is a thing. But yes, trams and trains crashing into trams and trains because the tram/train driver's action sure is near zero compared to the number of trams crashing into cars because of the car driver's action.
Edit: so today another crash happened here, must be a shitty week for whoever insures these people:
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I was going to comment that the only train I have personally seen hit something, hit a car.
They do
Also, humans driving cars, because it's pretty easy to have fewer 'crashes' when you just omit a heap of crashes.
“the analysis excluded minor incidents involving Waymos that would likely not have been reported to the police had a human been driving,”
¯_(ツ)_/¯ I get your point but also I get their point, they are trying to make the data comparable to the data they are comparing too. It just so happens it makes them look better too.
wait hear me out. what if the driverless cars had special roads built for them and they were larger so they could carry more passangers!
Or bicycles!
Driverless bicycles!
Those by definition can't exist - a bicycle must be powered through muscles for a significant portion, about 25-50% at least. Even electric bicycles still are mainly muscle-powered.
So you're saying that technically they're all driverless?
Interesting. Same data in USA says the robo taxis were almost twice as likely per million miles (I last checked few months to half a year ago) to be in incident as human drivers.
As usual, Musk is most likely the one skewing the statistics.
His cars, whether on commercial "full self driving" mode (which it isn't, at all) or whether they're the commercial robo-taxis, have all kinds of driving and safety issues. Almost everyone other than Musk has very few issues.
But if you're on rails, how are you supposed to steer out of the way of obstacles? That would never work
-Some politician probably
The problem is Americans hate other Americans. And they’d rather do the hating from inside their own death cage.
I wish all the money poured into AI instead went into mass transit.
Our local LRT crashes into cars so regularly, there's a tally on the subreddit sidebar.
100% true, but currently the areas these waymos are active aren't going to install trains or rail lines. The Phoenix area Waymo operates in for instance is your typical asphalt hellscape that wouldn't work well with trains because of how the area was designed for cars (rip). Not ideal but I rather drive next to a waymo than a human in these areas, the humans are insane drivers.
Yes yes fuck cars but this is an improvement imo
Phoenix is a perfect city for trolley/tram lines. You have perfectly straight gigantic roads laid out in an uninterrupted grid. It would be quite easy to run rails down the middle of the streets.
Dear GOD this city looks like a synthetic nightmare, I love not living around any centrally planned cities.
Phoenix has many problems, I don't think that's one of them.
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