This thread literally proves the point of the OP. People just can’t seem to agree on the 4th city lmao
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Fourth-most important city is the one geographically closest to you. For all others, it's DC.
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Depends how you define major. The 4th city rotates by category.
Tourism? Vegas or Orlando.
Politics or history? DC, Philadelphia or Boston.
Tech? San Francisco or Seattle.
Population size? Houston
Land size? Juneau.
Music? Nashville or maybe New Orleans and Atlanta.
Music is still NYC or LA by miles.
Really specific genres come from the places you listed.
NYC and LA were already on the list! :)
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San Francisco easily takes it imo.
Distant 17th by population but more than makes up for it through business, technological, and cultural influence. (Edit: Especially since the wider San Francisco Bay Area can be credibly lumped together to form such a populous combined statistical area.)
The bay area is almost one big city. As such, it would be an easy 4. But separately, not a lock.
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NY, Chicago, and LA for sure. And certainly cities like Seattle, Dallas, Denver, St. Louis, New Orleans, Atlanta, Miami, Philadelphia, Detroit, and Boston would all duke it out for the notoriety of the 4th spot. But, are we going to pretend that DC doesn't edge the rest out for importance, both historically and currently, for landmarks, for cultural relevance?
I'm not American but is San Francisco not a really important city?
Yeah, it is. There are arguably many more too. Minneapolis, Pheonix, Las Vegas, San Diego, Houston, etc. I just tried to pick a smattering of places off the top of my head from a wide spread of the country.
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DC has a clear lead in monuments
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I like to think that Washington DC is the fourth, seeing as it’s the national capital, the political & historical center of America, and the fact that things that happen in DC have not just national, but international effects.
Also a fair bit of personal bias tbh, seeing as I live in the metro area.
I live in your country but I agree. From outside, DC is more major than Chicago.
I think there's some truth to the idea that the relative ranking depends on what context you're talking about.
Pure population? Houston.
History and politics? DC to the top, Philadelphia and Boston in the mix.
Economically? The Bay Area has tech and Houston has oil and gas.
Domestic tourists and international tourists? Certainly a conversation to be had for DC, Las Vegas. Miami maybe?
What about cultural influence domestically, and abroad? Do Nashville, Atlanta, and Miami fit in somewhere?
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There is also that city where the White House's East Wing used to be.
Houston or Boston i guess.
NY, LA, SF, DC... Chicago is a great city but not as influential on the world stage as it used to be.
I'm not sure.. who would be the rotations?
Boston ?
San Francisco
Phoenix
Santa Fe
Houston Austin
Idk
+/-
Miami/Tampa/Orlando
Seattle
Atlanta
DC
Portland
Minneapolis/St. Paul
Philly
New Orleans
Kansas City
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Four's a bit of an arbitrary number and major is woefully undefined.
Americans don't get this because they have no idea how the U.N. works.
Thats a ridiculous assertation. They wont get this because they cant read.
The fuck are these random squiggly lines I keep seeing everywhere. I just learned I can hold my finger down on them, click the squares and drop them in chatgpt and do the squares again and people make more squigglies
I mean, if you're operating purely by population, next in line is Houston.
If you're operating on power and influence, Washington D.C. is #1.
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Miami, San Francisco, maybe Boston. The only thing DFW is good for is talking about the Cowboys.
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Maybe it's just me but I don't think Chicago holds that spot idk
Chicago was historically considered the Second City, after NYC. It's a major shipping and economic hub and has something like the 6th highest GDP of any urban region in the world, over $919 billion in 2024. It has an incredibly diverse culture and is a world class city by every definition of the word.
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