$59,900 is still vastly outside of the pricing most people can afford.
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Sure, but this is also basically a top model performance version of the ioniq 5, which starts at 35k. That's closer to a reasonable number.
But you realize this promo uses words like "affordable" to describe an insane price tag. That's the point I took from this, even before "[the price on a completely different model not mentioned here is] closer to a reasonable number."
If you think this is insane, you haven’t shopped for a new car recently.
It's all insane.
The average cost of a new car in the US is apparently 51k, so you're dead on. This "performance verison" is well within the range of a normal upgrade package.
And $6300 price drop is just Hyundai testing the waters, because car prices have NOTHING to do with manufacturing costs.
Especially when you have Chinese EVs at half to 1/3 of that price in most countries.
Chevy did the same thing when the rebates ended in 2021.
This just shows you the rebates didn't save anyone any money.
The rebates probably helped Hyundai pay the r&d costs and get more people buying them.
The price drop could be similar to how PlayStations and other tech drops in price new after a few years.
This isn't true at all. The first round of rebates didn't when include Hyundai EVs. So it didn't noting for Hyundai r&d.
Replace Hyundai with any electric company name that benefited from the rebates.
Yes the companies and dealers benefits from the rebates. I'm not arguing that.
The customer did not benefit from the rebates is my argument.
The customer benefits from having access to a wide array of electric cars now due to those subsidies.
The majority of EVs are made outside of the USA, and didn't benefit from the subsidies. The subsidies did biting for EV production for r&d for a majority of EV manufacturers.
It did help tesla make record profits though.
No, but it shows they monetize your recorded conversations more than the initial sale price
I dunno about you guys but I buy electric cars because I like electric cars. Electric cars that emulate the annoyances of gas cars does not appeal to me.
Is it this part that bothers you?
The virtual gear shift, called N e-Shift, is what caught most people’s attention. When paired with its N Active Sound System, the setup mimics the sound and feel of an eight-speed dual-clutch transmission.
Yeah that’s weird. Does it mimic the change in torque at different “rpm” for each “gear”?
The same buyers who modify their motors so they crack and pop like an old carburetor motor. My car is modified to release steam because that's the ways I like it.
Mine is modified to start with a crank.
Basically we now build ICE driving simulation interfaces into electric vehicles. All stupid because people who read car magazines need "soul" and to make brum brum noises.
Yes!
I remember people saying that a lot of cars or whatever mimic what older cars did because people associated it with power. Like the engine noise is played through speakers or something like that. So even ICE cars imitate that as well.
I'm in agreement with you some of these vestiges should die.
why does a completely optional feature bother you? jist don't use it if you don't like it? it's not like the car's default mode has that enabled.
let hyindai make fun silly things for people that enjoy them for basically no extra cost.
This is how I feel about those vegan burgers that bleed.
I'll just take a mushroom burger, thanks.
Guess they saw better sales to insurance and ad companies of their customer's conversations and sex habits than previous years.
I’m using my ICE car until it’s dead, but this is what I’ve got my eye on as a replacement (used, of course)
Make sure to get one where the ICCU has been replaced recently, they now have a 15 year warranty on it but you don't want to be left stranded. It can happen very fast when it fails because the 12 volt battery runs everything that's not the electric motors and the ICCU failure causes it to no longer be charged from the big battery.
Otherwise those are really fun little vehicles. I test drove the original release version (before the N came out) and I didn't find it particularly comfortable since I'm used to slightly more premium cars (but usually at much cheaper prices - I also buy used, but 15+ years old mostly with two exceptions), but for what it cost, you get a lot of tech, it looks cool, and the performance is great. The standard Ioniq 5 handled poorly in that there was no steering feel whatsoever (and yet I felt every bump I drove over, just not through the steering wheel). I'm hoping they've done something with the N to make it handle better and perhaps even feel better.
I just bought a used 2023 id4 for 20k. That's just outside of my comfort zone.
That's a pretty car, especially in the non-standard colors. Only complaints: boot is a tad small (because the whole car is a tad small) and the Android-based interface and the physical knobs etc is a bit shit.
because the whole car is a tad small
lol wut?
If you're used to mid-size sedans and wagons, the Ioniq 5's exterior dimensions are in fact pretty small. This necessitates either a small boot, a small interior, or both. From my testing of the Ioniq 5, I'd say the interior was fine (not particularly spacious, but not super cramped), so that leaves the boot.
compared to (ICE) sedans the difference is the shorter engine compartment. The Ioniq5 is also quite wide and high (at least to my standards).
comparison vs toyota camry:

https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/toyota-camry-2024-sedan-vs-hyundai-ioniq-5-2021-suv/
cargo space: 527 l (ioniq) vs 428 l (camry)