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[–] dragginupagain@lemmy.today 14 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

'somebody at a security conference said one method of dealing with a target is destroying it'

wow incredible story. Surely this is being upvoted because it's a quality article about current events that are globally relevant and not because the musk obsessives are jerking off to the fantasy the headline presented.

There is an enough_musk_spam community where this stuff should be posted.

Here's the actual reporting that this clickbait was extracted from https://archive.ph/20260709102553/https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/the-new-axis-of-evil-der-spiegel-investigation-reveals-deep-military-cooperation-between-russia-and-china-a-12dc295a-413d-4a2f-b44f-2922092270e3#selection-1635.25-1635.374 fair warning it just boils down to 'Russia and China have some military cooperation because they see the US as a shared adversary'

[–] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder how much taxpayer money will be spent trying to protect musk's satellites.

[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Honestly, they are so cheap compared to anything that could kill them. The best passive defense strategy is to just launch more.

Obviously there are lots of active defense measures that would be on the table. But that would likely be the chosen passive defense strategy.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

I could get on board with that.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Ooh I'm actually all for this! Destroy ALL the satellites!

[–] Tiral@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The problem is they won't clean anything up.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca -1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Clean what up? The debris that burns up in the atmosphere?

[–] deltapi@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I suggest reading the Kessler syndrome article on Wikipedia. The short of it is that not all that debris is expected to come down.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The Kessler syndrome was a proposed scenario, not a scientific study. A hypothetical.

This article is about countering Starlink. Starlink satellites are in such low orbit, they de-orbit by themselves and fall back and burn up in the atmosphere very quickly if they don't correct their orbit regularly.

[–] deltapi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

And the (heavily editorialized) news headline was to do it explosively. Not sure where you and I are disconnecting here.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 83 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Yay!

Kessler Syndrome! Kessler Syndrome! Kessler Syndrome!

/s

[–] SparroHawc@piefed.world 46 points 1 day ago (19 children)

Low Earth orbit means that the debris will get dragged down by the atmosphere before it becomes a cascading problem. Thankfully.

[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So we can directly pollute the upper atmosphere with heavy metals? I’m sure that’s a good thing. /s

[–] SparroHawc@piefed.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Happens all the time with meteors. There's a lot of atmoshpere and only so many Starlink satellites; far too few satellites to meaningfully affect anything.

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[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 12 points 1 day ago

On the plus side, global cooling achieved through a shield of reflective debris!

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[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 25 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yay! but the Ukraine war effort Boo! but less space junk! Yay! but all those just... normal Starlink customers who need internet Boo! but fuck Musk! Yay!

I'm gonna need a drink.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Blowing up satellites turns it from 1 bit of space junk into thousands...

[–] CorporalCookie@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

They're so low they'll just burn up

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 1 points 12 hours ago

Eventually, doesn't it still take a while though?

[–] signalsayge@infosec.pub 4 points 20 hours ago

I think by pure count, the amount of space junk would go up. The pieces would just be a lot smaller.

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How about a frozen yogurt? I call it frogurt.

[–] tektite@slrpnk.net 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The frogurt is also capitalist.

[–] tektite@slrpnk.net 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

But you get your choice of topping.

[–] tektite@slrpnk.net 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

The toppings contain regulatory capture.

Edit: That’s bad.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

Why not frozurt? It sounds less cursed!

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[–] Tiral@lemmy.world -4 points 17 hours ago

I'm surprised China just doesn't say they created a better Starlink. The CCP lies/makes up about everything else so what's one more thing.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That is inevitable. The sky will be filled with the trash of struck down satellites and nothing can leave earth for a while. Before starlink, China had already demonstrated that they can shoot down satellites. No investigation needed.

[–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

filled with the trash of struck down satellites

It's already full of trash of operating satellites. Starlink is very very low orbit. When pieces go in random directions (assuming significant enough vertically), they either go back to the atmosphere (air will stop it, duh) or slightly higher up to be in an orbit that's original height on one side and slightly higher on another.

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