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[–] GreenCrunch@piefed.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

lithium ion batteries have come a long way in a short time! and there are still improvements to be made that can make them cheaper and safer to produce which is great

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Absolutely, combustion engines stand no chance. EVs will continue to become even more extremely affordable and efficient way beyond what ICE vehicles will ever be able to achieve.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Used ICE is still the value king and the EU has made sure that every car made in 2026 or later is an absolute privacy nightmare so the only "good" used EVs will be from a narrow range of like 2020-2025 where they were already pretty decent, but didn't have mandatory cameras yet. There's a much wider of good ICE vehicles ranging from mid 00s to 2025 that are fairly reliable and cheap to buy used.

[–] yenahmik@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If only cost followed that line down as well!

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

It would if not for bad gatekeeping policy decisions.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

The cost of Chinese EVs is competitive. It’s only in the US that EVs are absurdly expensive.

[–] KiwiTB@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only thing to note there is that users fast chargers which isn't the main way you would charge your car and while interesting info, makes it less relevant for every day use.

[–] lemmyng@piefed.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For every day use, slow charging is fine, because you can leave the vehicle plugged in overnight.

The fast charging time is important on longer trips, which is what has been historically a detractor for EV ownership. It is also a good watermark for gauging the viability of EV fleet vehicles, such as for long haul freight.

[–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Long haul still doesn’t make sense to me unless it’s swappable lower density batteries. I know you can recycle lithium batteries but it feels wasteful.

Besides, overhead power is the good stuff, if it absolutely has to be rubber over asphalt.

[–] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

CATL have just released a small truck EV battery that will charge from 20% to 80% in less than 7 minutes!