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Starlabs makes a better one ..and it doesn't suffer from having an investor named Linus Sebastian ..
Honestly, why would I spend thousands on a framework, when I can spend 3x less or more, with a used thinkpad, that is already fairly repairable?
If I was rich, sure, I'd buy a framework in a heartbeat, but am not rich, yet . . . . . . .
To me it is that i upgrade to few times so the laptop would be 10 years old and then everything is out of date. Maybe upgrade battery in between. However, I guess these are really good in the used(resold) market.
The idea of repairable notebooks sound good, except it's done by getting filtered through the tech bro lens. Still an ultrabook, the ports must be interchangeable modules to amaze the investors/users.
Just want to say, I bought a framework 13 and it's fantastic. Been running arch off of it for two years and it's been a workhorse.
It was expensive comparable to a similar specced PC at the time but I make enough to vote with my wallet so that's what I did. I think anyone who has the money but doesn't, simply because there's a better deal that's worse for the environment and the makers of the item, while holding a right to repair or anti-corporate mindset are hypocritical at best.
The world gets better if we make it that way, and I see buying a framework (if you have the extra money) as a small step in a better direction.
This proves that making a product twice as expensive actually does decrease sales significantly if you aren't Apple.
It isn't twice as expensive though.
In Apple’s case it helps that there aren’t any competitors for them. There are very few laptops with the same fit and finish as a laptop with good specs at a comparable price point.
Huh I didn't realize laptops weren't repairable. That's like, what I do for a living.
*more accessible to us peons, not a master like you!
Having linus on board is terrible advertising for something that is meant to be good.
This may seem weird but I dislike the aspect ratio of their screens.
I have a desktop with 16:9 monitors and a laptop with 16:10.
Those are close enough that your workflow doesn't really change. But 2:3 is different enough it makes a difference.
That and for what they are they're crazy expensive. So I went for a Slimbook (kinda the Spanish version of Tuxedo). They're not perfect but I found them "good enough".
Not in the market for a laptop currently but I do intend to keep them in mind since I use Linux.
motherfuckers acting like those laptops aren't five hundred bajillion dollars
Yeah, I was about to say: with the prices of new machines nowadays, whenever all mine eventually conk out, I may just try to get used machines for pennies on the dollar at estate sales and revive them with Linux, haha.
I was really determined to get one, partially because I love the cotton candy pink, don't judge. But now that memory and ram prices went up, it went from a premium price to absolutely insane. I'm just gonna stick with my old thinkpad another decade or so at this rate.
Exactly, my last laptop was around €750 but I remember looking for a similar (in terms of performance) Framework laptop and it was around €1200 if I remember correctly, not an insignificant difference for a student.
If I were god king of (USA/Europe/Asia...the Universe), I would subsidize repairable laptops. It would save resources in the long run, for both humanity and the planet.
All hail king SabinStargem!
I have bought and returned 2 framework laptops. They are repairable but they are also questionable build quality.
The screen on the Framework 12 is very subpar and the size and weight throw it out of being a light laptop.
Despite saying how good Linux support was running NixOS on the replacement Framwork 13 was not great either. Wireless drops and countless reports of drops on their forums with zero responses or workarounds. Most people buy replacement wireless adapters cause the one Framework ships just doesn't work.
On top of that the laptop just feel cheap with a steep price. I have hope for the new Pro, but we'll have to see if it's any good because so far I am pretty dissapointed with Framework.
Who would have thought a more expensive, more premium product would have a hard time finding customers during a time when people are struggling to pay bills and cant even afford the non-existent dollar menu at mcdonalds anymore.
Thing is, they feel decidedly less premium (while sure as fuck being more expensive), which doesn’t help the case
and lets face it, by the time its out of warranty and old enough to need any kind of easy repair.. the replacement parts are probably gonna cost as much as a newer, much more up to date laptop from another company.
Which is inherently the problem with repair ability in general.
I run into the same problem with cellphones.. I could replace the battery in mine and run it for another 6 years, or I could get a much newer (used) phone for the same price, and end up with a almost 100% new battery AND much better hardware.
but parts will never be made cheap enough to be reasonable and affordable, because people will just buy the parts and assemble the product themselves. So parts have to be at least as expensive as buying the new thing, if not more expensive, to discourage the act itself.
yuuuup, that too
I wish it wasnt that way, Things should not just be repairable, they should be affordably repairable, because thats a major step towards dealing with a disposable society.
I would love to have a Framework laptop. Those things are awesome as hell.
Unfortunately, my very old laptop that I've torn down and repaired over a dozen times is still kicking. And spending $100 to fix it is cheaper than spending a gazillion dollars on a new Framework.
