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cross-posted from: https://piefed.blahaj.zone/c/politicalmemes/p/843651/valid-point
My wallet isn’t owned by a tech conglomerate that has access and admin privileges to everything inside of it. Also, I just don’t want my phone to be everything, especially my I.D.
When I'm out I keep my phone on airplane mode and in a little faraday bag. I am not dragging out my phone and waiting for it to reacquire signal every time I want to buy cigarettes. Nevermind that defeats the point of the faraday bag...
Your phone does not need an internet connection to tap to pay, in the same way your credit cards do not need an internet connection to tap to pay
How do you do tap-to-pay from inside a faraday bag?
I was addressing the “waiting to acquire signal” part, not the “removing from a bag” part which I imagine to be fast
I just wrap the Faraday bag around the card reader and let NFC do its thing. The cashiers hate me, but sometimes the cute ones get confused and let me draw them in their underwear.
Or they’re German.
I've worked in IT support/Security for too long to have any of my cards just a short nfc tap away from being used/stolen from.
Don't you need to unlock the phone to activate the NFC chip though?
Then you're well aware that it doesn't work while the card is in a typical wallet.
Meanwhile I'm over here with my 1.5in thick wallet with a shitton of different cards and cash.
If I was much older I wouldn't even count as a millennial, and Im genuinely shocked by some of these replies.
People don't seem to realize
Phone cases can have credit card holders in them
Some states now have virtual driver's licenses
if your phone breaks or whatever all your data is accessible from another device and freeze all your accounts if for some reason you skipped #1.
There really is no need for a wallet anymore.
Paying with cash is the most private method. I hope it stays.
You already can't in so many places. I thought it was required to accept cash, but apparently that's only for paying the government.
Cash is required to be accepted to clear a debt.
Cash is not required to be accepted to make a purchase.
That's how I understand it. Cash is legal tender and has to be accepted to clear debts, so restaurants where you pay after you eat might not be able to refuse cash (though I don't think there's a requirement to provide change), though they can refuse all future business with you.
I left my wallet on my work desk and a youngling helped walk me through using my phone to pay for my drive-through coffee order. I felt so cool and high tech.
Of course, when we got to "turn on NFC" the youngling asked what NFC was. I think I told him it was like Bluetooth and let the phone talk to the card reader.
My older "forgot my wallet" technique was to make an online order for pick up and enter my organically memorized credit card information into the online form.
I think your story makes a jump. Who taught whom?
I think the kid taught OP how to use the software, and OP taught the kid the hardware.
Exactly. I didn't know how to make it work but I had a rough idea how it worked.
You guys don't pay with cash?
So every purchase you make, doesn't matter how small, you give a cut to the payment processor? I'd be fucking pissed if I were a small shop selling to you. In fact there are many shops that just refuse to sell if you buy something too cheap through a payment processor.
It costs me 2-4% to pay with cash. I don’t care about how much money I make for the business, I care how much an item costs me. If paying with credit costs me 2-4% less I’m going to do that. Plus all the added perks, like doubling of manufacture warranty, or travel insurance, to name a couple.
Paying with credit raises your credit score which is required as a check for getting rentals or apartments unfortunately.
What the fuck
Don't worry social credit scores are only a thing in evil china
Stores sell more product when they accept credit cards. It makes the purchase a lot more seamless. It also helps them track money and reduces mistakes or theft during a cash transaction.
There is a reason that shops accept credit.
There's also a reason why a lot of shops are charging an extra % or two if you use credit. And a big reason why a lot of larger purchases like cars and home renovations do NOT accept credit.
Some of us live in places that have free cards.
I strayed into not taking a wallet out with me briefly, then I realised my life shouldn't rely on Apple or Android (or my (lack of) ability to charge devices).
Exactly. We should decrease our dependency on these companies, not increase it.
...i have a wallet. One of the band ones, for cards only. Obsessed with having my cards (id, club and pay ones) with me at all times, but hate coins and bills with all my heart. As soon as I could drop 'em, I did.
Debt do does what it will and won't do, so I don't, and that's why I don't pay my taxes. Also, in other news, I cost taxes.
Police, show us you ID or got to prison.
Oh you see I'm a gen z...
It's not illegal to not have ID.
It is illegal to drive without a license.
Depending on what you're doing, it's perfectly fine to leave ID at home (assuming you're light skinned, but also ID doesn't save you anyway in some cases)
It's not illegal to not have ID.
In which countries?
that's dumb. I have a wallet and so does everyone else I know in my age. Im gEn Z. these stupid generational labels make no sense
From what I can tell in this thread, most people carry wallets outside of generational divides, and the post is BS. There is also a significant number of generational-independent psychopaths who have absolutely unhinged systems like “I just carry lose cards in my pocket because I don’t want to take ten minutes picking out a wallet at the store.”