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I think Charlie from Tim Burton’s Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is a total non-character. Just utterly blank.

Take Augustus, for example. His ticket was even half-bitten. Sure, he’s a German tub of lard. A total fatso. But! He wants to eat chocolate, so he eats it. He doesn’t worship Wonka, and he doesn’t give a damn about the golden tickets. He just does what he does best, while everyone else was clearing the store shelves looking for a ticket. PLUS, HE SPEAKS WITH A GERMAN ACCENT! He’s the only kid who learned a second language (English) to a conversational level.

So, why did Charlie even win?

Because he didn’t stick his nose in anything.

And why didn’t he stick his nose in anything?

Because he wasn’t spoiled like Veruca Salt?

Yes!

BUT! He is also completely devoid of initiative—unlike Violet and Mike Teavee:

Violet: An absolute leader, an athlete, hyper-focused on winning. She tries the experimental gum because she’s used to being first in everything and pushing new boundaries.

Mike Teavee: Just think about it—a 12-year-old boy hacked an un-hackable contest created by an eccentric billionaire, using probability math and supply-chain ballistics. In our reality, this kid would already be scouted and escorted away by recruiters from the NSA or MIT. Mike isn’t just some ‘angry gamer’; he’s an intellectual titan. Making a child’s outstanding intellect his main vice is a really bizarre message for a children’s movie.

And who wins in the end? Spineless Charlie. A boy whose ambitions are so atrophied that when a crazy chocolatier offers him an industrial empire, he… refuses. He’s too afraid to step out of his cozy, warm little swamp.

Or maybe that was the plan all along? Perhaps Wonka needed a blank slate—a compliant yes-man who wouldn’t argue, wouldn’t remodel the factory to fit his own vision, and would just blindly follow orders. In essence, Wonka chose the perfect heir for his slave-labor empire (because, let’s be real, his Oompa Loompas work for food).

Charlie Bucket will never innovate, never automate the Oompa Loompas’ labor, and never optimize taxes. He will just sit in his chocolate paradise, just like his father sat in that freezing shack.

Speaking of his dear old dad!

A man who has four grandparents rotting on a single bedsheet in his house loses his job as a toothpaste cap-screwer (literally, his job was to screw caps onto toothpaste tubes). And what does he do? He just sits in his hovel and whines.

BUT! In the finale of the film, we see this ‘Mr. Bucket’ calibrating and repairing the exact machine that replaced him. This is a key detail. It means he isn’t just some uneducated, unskilled laborer. He is a skilled mechanic. An engineer. A man who understands kinematics and automation. In an industrial world, a skilled mechanic is a king. As long as the gears are turning, engineers will be in high demand.

But this guy… he just didn’t look for work. He found it much more comfortable to play the victim of progress, waiting for his destitute son to bring home some dirt-cheap cabbage-leaf soup.

If someone is capable of disassembling, repairing, and upgrading a highly complex industrial robot, they are a top-tier specialist. In the real world, a person like that wouldn’t sit around in a crumbling shack watching his family starve. His passivity isn’t a ‘tragedy of poverty’—it’s a professional paralysis of will. He was just waiting for the world to solve his problems for him.

And this movie presents this family to us as paragons of virtue?

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[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 6 points 3 weeks ago

I can't tell if this is satire or not, but the chocolate factory is not a for-profit company. It makes money, sure, but unlike every single real company in existence, it care more about making the products than making money. It's like an indie artist's personal store, but scaled up.

The only important factor to Wonka is that his successor find the wonder in everything, and not lose it in profitability like most of the characters you mention would have done. You talk as if "winning" is growing the company, but really it's keeping things mostly the same, because that's what made the magic happen in the first place.

As for Augustus, he would just eat everything, which would be a problem.

[–] neuroneiro@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago

There is no Willy Wonka anymore. He died with Gene Wilder. Also, that looks like a young Peter Thiel. Too bad he survived.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz -3 points 3 weeks ago

I've never seen the new version, but I find your take (disappointingly) accurate, and I'm certain that this same thread runs through many other films too.